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Here are the 70 House Republicans who voted to cut off all US military aid to Ukraine
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That's pretty based. Ukraine is a black hole and a military industrial complex welfare state. It has legitimate Nazi militias deputized by the state. Azov, Kraken, Right Sector, and the Bandaras. You can see Nazi and Banderas iconography on Ukrainian equipment to this day.
We've gave them a fair shake. Billions in equipment. They lost.. This isn't even about the false American left right paradigm anymore. A good cornerman knows when to throw in the towel. Ukraine can only take so much of a beating.
Did they lose? All I ever see is news about Ukraine fucking them up
If that's the case you're in a bubble. The situation on the battlefronts is way more dynamic than that.
One thing pro Ukrainian apologists can never answer. What is winning? Define it. What is the core objective where we say Ukraine has won decisively?
Because the current situation on the battlefront is that this war will NOT be won decisively militarily. Politics will end it. That's just a simple fact.
The counter offensive did not separate Crimea from the DPR grouping as advertised.
What exactly is "fucking them up anyway?" The lines are still at a stalemate.
The absolute irony of Americans (and specifically, politicians who voted for a half dozen needless wars of aggression over their career) suddenly caring about innocent people being hurt in a pointless war.
"Hey, you can't do that, only the US and our buddies who we arm in Israel are allowed to do that!"
I can't speak for others, but I was always anti war. So were liberals (American citizens) The big appeal of Obama was he campaigned on ending the War on Terror and bringing the troops home.
GWOT legitimized war in the corporate / political establishment and Americans now are brainwashed into supporting endless wars. I was always against GWOT and the NATO globohomo stuff too.
It will never end ever. Next will be Taiwan, Iran, North Korea, Mexico, Venezuela ect ect.. Where do we draw the line hmm? I'm drawing it now.