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[-] Mako_Bunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 11 months ago

The absolute lack of sympathy in here for those of us that voted remain is disgusting.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 16 points 11 months ago

The way a referendum works is that the side with more votes gets to do the thing, in this case brexit. How you voted does not matter as the majority of your countries population (who voted) voted to leave. You don't get to "I voted for Kodos" this 7 years later.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

That referendum was 7 years ago and it passed with a 2% majority, under conditions where the Leave campaign was caught lying out of their teeth.

A lot of people who voted on it have died since then and a whole cohort of people aged 18-25 didn't get a chance to vote.

Democracy required them to go through with it, but democracy also means they are allowed to change their mind and apply for EU, EER or EFTA membership.

I, for one, will welcome them back at the soonest opportunity.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

More referendums is the way to go.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How is that fair? If the vote had been to oppress an minority group you wouldn't then go oh well it's that population groups fault for being oppressed would you?

I'm not sure that the level of vitriol here is entirely justified. Wouldn't the European Union be more economically sound if the UK rejoined. Wouldn't a unified trade block be the best thing possible you should want the UK back in if the UK wants back in. I do not get this attitude of oh screw all the British people because well the vast majority of Scottish didn't want it, most of the population of London didn't want it. It was basically just a bunch of idiot yokels and old people who are now dead who wanted to leave the EU because they thought the EU was in some way this evil entity.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not sure where you get vitriol and the idea anything is fair. I am also not extra happy Scotland did not leave the UK but as there was a vote (just 2 years too soon) and last time I checked things still work that way so I like most people have to live with it.

Hold a referendum on the issue then again (I am sure it will also be a mess). Its insane that people now think you can somehow ignore a majority vote because you don't like the result. Was this a bad idea? yes. Is the UK filled with "a bunch of idiot yokels and old people"? also yes.

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Its insane that people now think you can somehow ignore a majority vote because you don’t like the result.

Making a bad decision doesn't mean you can never, ever rethink that decision and have to stick with it no matter what.

If the majority doesn't like the result, then what's the point of not reconsidering things?

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

Never said otherwise. But retroactively arguing the issue without a new referendum is an issue.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk -1 points 11 months ago

It was barely a majority vote and anyway it wasn't legally binding so the government could have totally ignored it at the time and been fine the vote was utterly pointless.

The problem is the morons held the vote then decided to uphold the decision of the vote even though It was essentially only getting soundings.

It was a trade relationship why was it a matter of public consultation?

The people of the UK have been extremely hurt by this and it's just irritating to see that apparently there would be resistance in the EU to fixing a mistake. Why is there resistance I don't get it?

[-] ebikefolder@feddit.de 15 points 11 months ago

Why is there resistance I don’t get it?

The history of British whining and cherrypicking. They never behaved like regular members, but more like "special snowflakes". I understand the fear that they might start this nonsense again, once back in the the union.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

It was barely a majority vote and anyway it wasn’t legally binding so the government could have totally ignored it

The problem is the morons held the vote then decided to uphold the decision of the vote

Do you see the problem with this approach?

[-] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

Ok I'm British, I live in a country that gave me permanent residency before this shit show. The remainers mismanaged the campaign by resorting to the arguments of "lol you're so stupid" and "omg so racist". They also completely and overwhelmingly underestimated the power of propaganda to influence public opinion. And didn't realise that a generation of blaming the EU for Westminster's shitty decision making might have consequences. The remainers are just as culpable as the people who voted to leave.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I remember the people being interviewed on the street saying they where remainers and also they where not planing to vote. It was a silly time.

[-] Syrus@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

You don't understand, we are sympathetic but the lead up to brexit did have a part in tanking the economy... Aside from inflation, Covid, etc... You guys need to get your shit together before we can move on. It will take time and make no mistake, You will never again regain the priviliged position you had before. It absolutely sucks for the remainers but thats how it is.

[-] Rainman@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

There is a lot of sympathy for those unlucky brits that voted remain. As a person who strongly identifies as european, I can barely imagine how it must have felt to leave our union. Made me heartbroken back then.

We just cannot give you a better treatment than those brits who voted to leave when it comes to rejoining. Unless you all move to Scotland and then leave the UK.

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