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    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Apple: "Sorry but your hardware seems to be out of date with our OS! Please buy another 3000 dollar laptop that's only worth 1000!"

    Me: "But it still runs?"

    Apple: "Does it, though?"

    Me: "Well not anymore... Thanks."

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Not to defend Apple, but doesn't windows 11 demand you buy new hardware for it to be installed? Something about a TPM?

    You can turn that off (unofficially) no such luck on mac

    [–] franklin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Yeah you need an Intel 8th gen or a ryzen processor in order to use it without a workaround. Something from the last 6 years.

    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    You don't need 8th Gen. It's just that 7th gen specifically doesn't work. I'm pretty sure older Intel chips are fine. TPM isn't on your CPU.

    [–] franklin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    Correct, I was trying to keep it simple but yes more specifically you need a TPM 2.0 capable system

    [–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    They update Macs for a good 8 years or so, which isn't that bad really. Then you can often just install newer versions with community tools after that.

    Edit: I haven't had one in a few years, apparently that's not quite true recently as they're trying to drop x86 support and move everything to ARM

    [–] mac@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

    That's more of an architecture shift as opposed to we don't support it because fuck you, also Rosetta means most x86 Mac apps will be able to run on the m-series chips.

    [–] mac@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

    I've seen MacBook's last for 8+ years and remain performant.