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[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 114 points 2 years ago (4 children)

When the city government wants to install anti-homeless benches, but doesn’t want the backlash from installing anti-homeless benches.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It is a lot better than other places but not literally 0.

Per this report, as of 2021 they had 4396 homeless people. A rate of 0.79 per thousand people in Finland.

Which to be clear is stellar.. but doesn't have much to do with the topic of anti homeless architecture.

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There will always be homeless people, the ones we have are either crashing or simply do not want to live inside (due to a multitude of reasons involving decades of living in the streets with substance abuse and mental issues). The only folk you'll find here sleeping on benches are aforementioned and students who have had one too many. Plenty of benches for both and even if all benches are turned into chairs we've got intoxication centres and housing available for those who prefer it.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

oH mY gOd ThAt'S dIsGuStInG sOcIaLlIsTiC cOmMuNiSm!!1!

[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Just for anyone who's unaware; it's social democracy, not communism. It is possible to have a wide public safety net without resorting to communism, which is inherently genocidal.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 years ago

This is probably the least dickish way to go about it.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I think your instant assumption about it being done for evil says more about the country you live than it does about Finland, because homelessness doesn't seem to be a big issue in Finland. That's ~5k homeless people in a country with ~5 million people, that's ~0.1% of the population being homeless.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The US is roughly the same percentage and it was definitely a comment from a US political frame. In the US they are simply more visible as they congregate in cities.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As opposed to here where they congregate to mountaintops?

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Certain demographics do not congregate everywhere. Farmers do not congregate in cities.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

But we are talking about US and Finnish homeless who do

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

0.1% is big. I want to see 0%.

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Also 70% of those homeless people are living with friends or relatives

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We don't have homeless people on finland. Or we do but quite minimally, the numbers are in couple thousand if I recall right

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's around 4,400. It bears mentioning that the population of Finland is only around 4.5 million. The Dallas Fort Worth Metro area has a population of about 6.5 million and a homeless population of around 4,500

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It bears mentioning that the population of Finland is only around 4.5 million.

Lmao you might want to check your numbers

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sorry you're right. It's more like 5.5 million. My point stands