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[-] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

It's mostly white people. I'm white. I know these people. I've been this person. Yes I agree, there is a meta inequality based on class outside of race. Just like there is "colourism" within non-white communities. These are all valid struggles that are worth fighting, and don't detract from other battles. They're in fact necessary skirmishes in a larger war (for universal human dignity, flourishing, whatever you want to call it).

Pardon all the violent analogies. The people at my work have infected me with this way of speaking.

[-] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

“colourism”

the word you're looking for is racism.

[-] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

You're right in that it is racism as well, and rooted in it. Though it is different in kind, and anyone who hasn't experienced it personally should be careful not to redefine it out of existence. So just like all robbery is theft, being robbed is an instance of theft that can feel very different from other kinds of theft.

Actually I'll just let Alice Walker do the talking:

Colorism, [...] “prejudicial or preferential treatment of same-race people based solely on their color.” It is not racism although there is a clear relationship.

[-] Skates@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago

Imagine if a white person would need to choose between a black candidate and a white candidate for a job, and they choose the white candidate saying "well obviously I'm going to choose someone my own race" - what kind of mental gymnastics are you or Alice there gonna do to explain how that's colorism, not racism?

[-] Deuces@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That is racism. Colorism is far more common in Asia than in the west. When two Han Chinese people apply for the job and they hire the lighter skinned person you can't call it racist as they are literally both the same race. So it instead falls under colorism. In the end of the day, as long as you recognize that both are bad it doesn't really matter what you call it, except that it makes it easier to communicate with others.

[-] quackers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

I would agree with that, but the meme is essentially implying that white people's opinions don't matter.
This is the exact type of stuff that fuels more racism on the right.
How do you expect to fix inequality by treating people unequally.

[-] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

implying that white people’s opinions don’t matter

I'm a white person and I definitely did not read that into it. What it literally says is that if you play devil's advocate for your own amusement, on topics that you don't have any stake in, without any intention of learning, then you're behaving insincerely. And that's bad.

[-] quackers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago

If you remove race from the meme and your last comment, we are in complete agreement.

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