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submitted 11 months ago by spaceghoti@lemmy.one to c/politics@lemmy.world

Why this renewed assault? “Obamacare Sucks!!!” declared the former and possibly future president. For those offended by the language, these are Trump’s own words, and I think I owe it to my readers to report what he actually said, not sanitize it. Trump also promised to provide “MUCH BETTER HEALTHCARE” without offering any specifics.

So let’s discuss substance here. Does Obamacare, in fact, suck? And can we believe Trump’s promise to offer something much better?

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Obama called it a 'starter house.' Remember, Obama had both Houses in 2009-2010 and the ACA barely squeaked through.

Conservatives have been poisoning the well on healthcare longer than you've been alive.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Conservatives have been poisoning the well on healthcare longer than you've been alive.

Frame Canada: Wendell Potter spent decades scaring Americans. About Canada. He worked for the health insurance industry, and he knew that if Americans understood Canadian-style health care, they might.... like it. So he helped deploy an industry playbook for protecting the health insurance agency. https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/925354134/frame-canada

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

'Frame Canada' made me think you were going to be quoting the 'South Park' movie. The actual truth is much stupider.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Yep. Ronnie Raygun put out propaganda on LP, no less, before many of us were born, calling it "socialized medicine". What's that comrade? You want healthcare? Whadaya, a commie? Dying without healthcare is for red-blooded Muricans, because something something FREEEEEDOM (cue the end of Braveheart).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Speaks_Out_Against_Socialized_Medicine

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

The 'socialized medicine' we're talking about here was Medicare. The album came out in 1961, and by 1980 Reagan was a huge fan of that program. [By 'huge fan' I mean that he was smart enough to know that talking bad about it would cost him votes]

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Obama called it a ‘starter house.’

Oh, those things that no one can afford?

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