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And now I'm concerned (startrek.website)
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[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago

Probably the same as who gets milked in real life. Animals drink milk too I don't understand why people are constantly thrown off by this, it's just as normal if not more normal to drink milk in the animal kingdom.

[-] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 months ago

Farming milk involves forcefully insemination cows to get pregnant so they produce milk in the first place. Often times in factory farming, their calves are taken away for "repurposing". Combine that with the typical living conditions for the average milk cow and it wouldn't be hard to imagine why people that have any idea of how the industry functions would be thrown off by this.

Imagine human women being treated like this for the milk they produce so that you get to enjoy a cheap pleasure.

[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We sell breast milk without forcefully inseminating women just fine, this leap of logic doesn't make any sense. We treat cows as livestock because we view cows as animals not people, whether their treatment is cruel or not is a different irrelevant argument, but in Zootopia they'd just be seen as people and would have control over the supply so obviously cows wouldn't be treated the same way in Zootopia as they are in real life. They'd only have to milk themselves and sell it just like when women sell breast milk in real life. If anything it's even less weird and disturbing to think about than in real life.

[-] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

In Zootopia it's probably a job they get compensated for.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Tell me you know nothing about farming without actually saying it.

Cows and other livestock are raised in farms to raise more cows anyway. Farmers don't keep male cows around for fun, and cows aren't pets. All non-breeding stock gets eaten.

[-] BatmamAoD@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

Your last paragraph is part of the premise of Mad Max: Fury Road

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure about other animals, but humans can induce lactation without pregnancy.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

don't compare women to cows

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

It's not the drinking milk thats weird. It's the fact that they would have to be farming milk from intelligent animals to get it. Like if cows could talk and were as smart as humans I think people would find farming milk from them a little weird.

[-] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago

The milk drinking is just as weird, since no other animal continues drinking milk after passing their baby state. Only humans do that.

[-] Bananigans 3 points 11 months ago

Your comment is proof that my cat is human.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

no other animal continues drinking milk after passing their baby state

any predator will eat lactating mammaries. birds and reptiles are also known to drink mammalian milk.

[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

no other animal continues drinking milk after passing their baby state

This is not even close to true. Even adult cows will occasionally grab a sip from another cow or even themselves.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Not as strange as Mongolians, who drink horse blood.

[-] BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

How is it more weird to get milk from intelligent animals that are capable of giving consent?

[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Humans sell their own breastmilk to other humans for human consumption all the time in real life, it is completely normal for humans to drink human milk as well as the milk or other animals. The only difference in Zootopia is that every animal would be providing their milk consensually and likely selling it themselves. There's nothing weird about that.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

All mammals drink milk, that's literally the defining biological trait of them. Hoomans are also mammals.

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