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How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse) (ploum.net)

submitted 11 months ago by Inductor@feddit.de to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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With Meta starting to actually implement ActivityPub, I think it would be a good idea to remind everyone of what they are most likely going to do.

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[-] MudMan@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yup. This is pretty much right on the money.

BlueSky and Threads are looking at interoperable protocols because they a) have engineers at home that think it's cool, and b) see the writing on the wall about upcoming regulation and want to preempt it. This is probably good for other networks already based on interoperability, but there are definitely a ton of open questions.

The article is 100% revisionist history written backwards to justify a knee-jerk conclusion and XMPP is indeed not dead. Or not any deader than anybody else that got washed away by WhatsApp winning the messaging wars over the 2010s.

EDIT: Re-reading my own post, it's too harsh. The article isn't "100%" revisionist history, so much as a biased insider account. The revisionist history is largely coming from both the misattribution of what happened to a deliberate move from Google and the fact that it's being misread and misquoted when people react to it.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

The article is 100% revisionist history written backwards to justify a knee-jerk conclusion and XMPP is indeed not dead. Or not any deader than anybody else that got washed away by WhatsApp winning the messaging wars over the 2010s.

Importantly, the article fails to establish how the current XMPP usage numbers show it's "dead" compared to back in the Google Talk days. Especially in the context of the entirely changed langscape of text messaging. So the very premise is weak from the get-go.

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it does acknowledge that it still exists and has a solid community at the very bottom.

I do excuse it, it's an article from an insider with an axe to grind that is bummed out that the Google integration didn't make them win the IM wars and that Google was bad at supporting a secondary app, as they do. That's legit.

But as a breakdown for a mallicious plan from Meta to "EEE" ActivityPub... well, it's not even pretending to be that.