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[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

sure it is. removing subsidies on commodities like gas doesn't change the demand for gas, it just puts more of a burden on poor people, and doesn't matter at all to the rich who use it most. that path will only lead to backlash against green policies in general, see the yellow vest protests. in order to reduce consumption you actually need to reduce demand by giving people sustainable alternatives.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Demand elasticity is a thing. Demand won't shrink by the same ratio prices rose after removing subsidies, but it will shrink.

Response to that I can't predict, but there are places in the planet where prices are lower because of the general poverty of population and the need to still sell it, and places where prices are even higher, but most of the population can't afford fuel, I can't name.

EDIT: This was incomprehensible, sorry. I meant that in the long term prices for the consumer are going to become closer to what they were with subsidies, likely, thus the real prices - lower. The question is how bad it gets before that happens.

[-] Zippy@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

How the fuck do they afford subsidies? Why do you think they have been in this crisis for 30 years? It is a well educated and fairly modern society. But if you think socialist programs can be paid by borrowing money or printing money indefinitely and won't result in cronic poor outcomes then you have little understanding of basic economics.

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