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[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago

Condemning the deaths of Palestinians is not inherently antisemitic

FTFY

[-] dlpkl@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago

Anti-zionism =/= anti-semitism.

Pro-Palestine =/= pro-Hamas.

Anti-Hamas =/= Pro-Israel.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 28 points 10 months ago

Since October it's been a really easy concept to grasp. Hamas is a terrorist group that murdered and kidnapped a bunch (don't know the exact number something around 200+) of Israeli civilians, the IDF responded in a predictably overzealous way and have now killed somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 civilians in Palestine. Neither Hamas nor the IDF have a moral high ground here. They both need to stop killing civilians. Super easy.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Neither Hamas nor the IDF have a moral high ground here. They both need to stop killing civilians.

The one thing both have in common is refusal to take peace talks seriously. Hamas refuses to let go of their hostages, and Israel continues their bombing campaign against Hamas.

Its a difficult situation because these are the "adults" in the room. The civilians involved have little power at all.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

Hamas did let some hostages go fwiw.

Both Hamas and the Israeli government do not want peace, though. They're on the same side in that. (Hence Israel sending cash and stuff to keep Hamas in power.)

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Israel sending cash…to keep Hamas in power

Oh no…

NYT article (no paywall)

That’s… bad.

Vetted one of the Times’ claims too: the Israeli press decrying the Qatari payments in 2014.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

It's pretty fucking bad.

The Israeli government directly aided the terrorist attack that killed over 1000 people. They're not protecting their citizens. Leveling Gaza doesn't protect shit. They're not changing their policies. They are a disaster both for the Israeli and Palestinian people.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile Israel has bombed known locations of hostages AND shot a few of them.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Hell, if anything, hamas is more interested in releasing the hostages than Israel is. They've let a few go, meanwhile the idf says "never forget" while turning Gaza into a crater. They don't give a flying fuck about the hostages.

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[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

Judaism =/= the Israeli government

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

I'd make this into a T-shirt but the amount of people that have no idea what ≠ means is too damn high.

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