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Freedom is the ONLY thing that counts. I do acknowledge that Libertarians claim to want to pursue freedom.

However I believe that Libertarianism, will only replace tyrannical government with tyrannical rule by businesses.

The problem with governments no matter their political leaning is that most political ideologies lack any mechanism to deal with corruption and abuses of power. Libertarianism seeks to deal with this by removing government and instead hand the power to private companies.

Companies are usually small dictatorships or even tyrannies. Handing them the power over all of society will only benefit the owners of these companies. The rest of society will basically be reduced to the status of slaves as they have no say over the direction of the society they maintain through their 9to5s.

These companies already control governments around the world through favors, bribes or other means such as regulatory capture or even by influencing the media and thereby manipulating the public's opinion through the advertisement revenue.

Our problems would only get worse, all the ills of today's society, lack of freedom, lack of peace, lack of just basic human decency will be vastly aggravated if we hand the entirety of control to people like petur tihel and allen mosque.

Instead the way to go about this is MORE democracy not less of it. The solution is to give average citizens more influence over the fate of society rather than less. However for that to happen we all need to fight ignorance and promote the spread of education. It has to become cool again to read books (or .epub/.mobi's lol)

The best way to resolve the the corruption issue is to not allow any individual to hold power, instead having a distributed system.

More of a community-driven government. Sort of like these workers owned companies. We should not delegate away our decision-making power. We should ourselves make the decisions.

Although this post is in English it does neither concern the ASU nor KU or any other English speaking countries, in particular. It's a general post addressing a world wide phenomenon.

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[-] yiliu@informis.land 0 points 10 months ago

The nation noted for its “free market healthcare” on the world stage has shit health stats.

You mean the nation where the government spends more per-capita on healthcare per citizen than almost anywhere else, while also claiming to be "free market"? The US healthcare industry is a fucking disaster.

'Cause you are so fucking far off the mark it’s hilarious.

Well, don't trip over yourself correcting me or anything. Silly me, I thought SaskTel, BCTel, Manitoba Telecom Services, and Alberta Government Telephones were Crown Corporations (i.e. public). I'm not as familiar with the history of telecom in the US--but also, the modern-day telecom industry is a hell of a lot healthier in the US.

At what cost in bodies?

Did you skip the rest of my comment? Over-regulation of airlines is almost certainly costing bodies today. That doesn't bother you, though, right?

Look at the 737-MAX fiasco, where government abrogated its oversight of the airline, permitting companies to “self-certify”

Dereliction of self-assigned duty. The government claimed responsibility for airline safety, then quietly dropped it. If they'd never taken responsibility in the first place, there'd be independent bodies doing it--the same way Consumer Reports gives safety ratings for cars without government funding.

And even so, even with aalllll those 737-MAX deaths, airlines are still 1000x safer than driving your car. Per 100k flights, you can expect roughly 1 accident, of which fewer than half result in any fatalities at all. Keep the 'fiasco' in perspective.

Seriously, go visit those 346 people’s families.

Okay, how 'bout I do that, and you go console all the victims of car accidents in the US. Hell, restrict yourself to the ones where one involved party said something like "You know, we could fly...nah, it's too expensive!" Hard to quantify, but given the car accident stats, I think you've got your work cut out for you.

The idea of regulation is to stop the bodies from happening in the first place instead of waiting

Just ground all planes, and flight accidents would fall to zero! Brilliant! And incidentally, that is analogous to the situation today: we severely restrict airlines in the name of safety, resulting in more deaths elsewhere (but that's not on us, the airline regulators!)

This religion of “the market solves all” is why libertarians are fuckwits.

But the market solves a hell of a lot more than people give it credit for.

And there's the name-calling! Boy, you sure showed them libertarians!

[-] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Over-regulation of airlines is almost certainly costing bodies today. That doesn't bother you, though, right?

"almost certainly"? How have people died as a direct result of over regulation of airlines. Cite your sources.

[-] yiliu@informis.land 1 points 10 months ago

Here you go. That's some examples where economists have considered the effects of regulation on cost, and thus mode of travel, and thus fatal accidents.

It's hard to put specific numbers on a counterexample. Here's an article with a table estimating the impart of increasing the cost of air travel.

[-] shottymcb@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Did you skip the rest of my comment? Over-regulation of airlines is almost certainly costing bodies today. That doesn't bother you, though, right?

Could you expand on that?

Look at the 737-MAX fiasco, where government abrogated its oversight of the airline, permitting companies to “self-certify”

Dereliction of self-assigned duty. The government claimed responsibility for airline safety, then quietly dropped it. If they'd never taken responsibility in the first place, there'd be independent bodies doing it--the same way Consumer Reports gives safety ratings for cars without government funding.

All of the crashes involving the 737-MAX were in countries with less stringent requirements for pilots. Practically every pilot in the US is like 'yeah that's not really a problem unless you're wildly incompetent'.

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