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...So I Finally Quit Spotify
(oliviarafferty.substack.com)
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this post was submitted on 30 Dec 2023
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Not going to give substack any views, so I'll pass on this one
What's wrong with it? (I never heard about it, just asking)
They outright won't ban Nazi content from their website. https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/21/24011232/substack-nazi-moderation-demonetization-hamish-mckenzie
It's not just "won't ban".
They collect money from subscriptions to Nazi authors, and pay those authors.
They are a Nazi publisher.
They commodify and profit from Nazis on their platform. When called out for it, they're response was "We don't like Nazis either, but we won't do anything about them and we'll continue to take our cut from their presence on our platform"
That sounds an awful lot like them quietly liking it
Turning a blind eye for profit is complicity.
Oh I remember hearing that quote. That was them? I had a conversation about it like a week ago. I read “substack” in the article but all tech names are pretty interchangeable to me. They all have the same groupings for the type of thing they are and substack sounded like image hosting or something to do with coding or some template bank for some kind of necessity like invoices or something. Point is, tech names are stupid and I didn’t even put the name to the site as I read it. Good to know, though.
If you're so petty about it, use archive.org or archive.is to view the page
Fellas, is it petty to refuse to support Nazis?
Viewing a website doesn't mean supporting the website. Especially if you use an adblocker.
Linking to their content and posting it here does, because it spreads that garbage around
If you have an adblocker, and you're not visiting any of those nazi sites directly, but do derail a comment section about a totally unrelated article? I say it is, yeah.
Then again, I can be pretty petty about circlejerks.
I wouldn't really call it a circlejerk to be against people who publish and profit from Nazi material.
The person who wrote the article we're supposed to be discussing in here is at least 2 degrees away from the nazis. At what point does it become circlejerk?
The Lemmy instance you're on is linking to a substack and is collecting donations, but you seem to be fine with that. So I guess the threshold is 3 degrees?
I have nothing against the author of this article. I do have something against Substack. It really is that simple. If this article is posted somewhere else I'll read it.
If this Lemmy instance had a bunch of Nazi content and the admins said they wanted to keep it up, then I'd block this instance. I wouldn't try to rationalise it by saying "oh well it's not like all the content is Nazi content..."
Again, it really is that simple.
If you're fine with supporting a platform that welcomes Nazis with open arms, fine, you do you. It's a personal choice.
Now you're basically implying that I'm a Nazi-sympathiser. I find that a cheap tactic and highly offensive.
That's my issues with these kind of oversimplifications and guilty-by-association-fallacies. Before you know it, everyone is Hitler. I'm not supporting anyone here. I read an article about Spotify on a blog, nobody gained any measurable financial worth from that.
I don't think we're going to find a common ground here. Have nice day.
I'm not calling you a nazi sympathiser at all. I said it's fine and you should do you.
You sure are bending over backwards in order to defend Nazi publishers and Nazi collaborators. It’s hard to see you as anything other than a Nazi sympathizer yourself. You are the company you keep.
If Olivia Rafferty here (they only one I defended) is a nazi collaborator, then sure, by your logic, I must be too. And thanks to the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon, you're one too.
Congratulations. At this point the term has lost all meaning, and we're all nazis.
If I’m going to travel to a certain city I’m not going to stay in the hotel that’s hosting the Nazi convention. Here you are saying “yeesh it’s not like the convention will be inside your room!” But there are other hotels - simple as that.
You act like a person needs some much better, really, really good reason not to read this article. If the site hosts Nazi content, that’s quite enough for me to just scroll to the next post. Why do any of us need to convince you or anyone else why this small act of conscience is valid?
You definitely don't have to. But if you were actually trying to, let me assure you that equating the reading of a harmless blog post to paying a hotel would not have done the trick.
Then you can’t understand analogies. Because you patronize a hotel by staying there, and you patronize a website by visiting it. The differences in their business models are immaterial to the comparison. But I can tell quite clearly you’re determined not to understand any of this so I’ll just stop there.