955
Train Rule
(midwest.social)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 30 Dec 2023
955 points (100.0% liked)
196
16729 readers
2288 users here now
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Public transport is good, but has it's own problems. You can't bring the sort of goods you can with your own transport (or you have to rely on the store to do it, which still leaves the problem of cars on the road). They become superspreader events during flu/covid season. If you have to take care of an elderly family member, they may have problems getting on them and finding seats, which can become a health hazard for them. Scooters have also been banned from some forms of public transport due to the risk of poor quality poorly maintained lithium batteries exploding, which still leaves the last mile problem.
This is a problem of design. You're saying PT is bad because cities make shit choices.
Sure! But like I'd happily pay the 2k per year I pay to maintain a car + amortised cost of a car + insurance to have better PT with like room for cargo and shit. Also not like nearly die every day because of insane tailgaters et al. and free up road space for housing or parks or whatever.
This was a post about "urban traffic problem", so cities are sort of a given for the context. I'm actually saying public transport is good, but has its own problems.
my mom brings home our christmas tree from her SO's forest every year, takes it on the train and on the bus without issue.
1 delivery vehicle delivering packages to many addresses does not still leave the problem of cars on the road, it can make it a lot smaller if people then cycle walk and us PT more.
That's one of the points I made, yes. So no, it does not still leave the problems of cars on the road, but also, it does it's just that it's a lot smaller? Getting mixed signals there.....
But if you do want to talk about that one footnote in parenthesis, "one vehicle making the deliveries" involves gas guzzling trucks and vans (which are still not trains, the whole hail mary of this thread) who set of using the vehicle capable of carrying all pending transportation orders, meaning horrible gas mileage, and still requires that road space to exist, not really freeing it up for "housing or parks or whatever".
Even then, it still has benefits, but comes with its own set of problems, like having to delay and schedule receiving the goods at a later time than when you could have received them, having to pay additional shipping costs (adds up for frequent periodic orders), or having each store cater to their own profit maximized shipping solution instead of coming up with a universal delivery one for that urban environment. It is far from the solved alternative you make it out to be.