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Only one in 10 feel leaving the EU has helped their finances, while just 9% say it has benefited the NHS, despite £350m a week pledge according to new poll

A clear majority of the British public now believes Brexit has been bad for the UK economy, has driven up prices in shops, and has hampered government attempts to control immigration, according to a poll by Opinium to mark the third anniversary of the UK leaving the EU single market and customs union.

The survey of more than 2,000 UK voters also finds strikingly low numbers of people who believe that Brexit has benefited them or the country.

Just one in 10 believe leaving the EU has helped their personal financial situation, against 35% who say it has been bad for their finances, while just 9% say it has been good for the NHS, against 47% who say it has had a negative effect.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

None of that though is what ~~modern~~ conservatives do.

FTFY. Half the point I was trying to make is that the notion about conservatism being about acting with caution isn't just a lie now, but has always been one. Conservatives have been falsely claiming this ever since the 16^th^ Century!

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Fair, yeah. We need a different term for the ideology to separate it from conservatism.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No we don't.

I think I still haven't quite made myself understood: The version of conservatism centered around perpetuating social hierarchy is conservatism. We don't need another name for it because it's the only kind of conservatism there ever was. The "good" kind of conservatism that's about caution or moderation that folks keep trying to contrast it with also doesn't need a name because it's not actually a thing that exists as a distinct ideology. (I suppose if you really insist on labeling it, you could call it "not-conservatism.")

Everybody who claims to be the "good" kind of conservative is either (a) a trash conservative who is lying about their motivations, or (b) a confused non-conservative.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

What's the name of the distinct ideology? I completely agree though.

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