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[–] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Could this result in a balkanization effect? Lots of exit talk in the last 10 years (caliexit, texit). Could conditions be reaching similar states that invoked things like The Hartford Convention?

My thinking is there would probably need to be more external intervention for that to a happen. Which I think aligns with history.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Balkanization is likely going to be forced by climate change making vast swathes of the US uninhabitable for suburbanites. That will create mass migrations of liberals and ghost towns will be taken up by armed groups. The major areas with access to water and farmland are going to end up with state militias setting up borders with those abandoned zones, and balkanization will reify through ideological struggle.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What happens to things like massive stockpiles of nuclear weapons is going to be a big question at that point.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly, it's going to come down to deep state actors allying with BRICS powers to manage. The alternative is BRICS powers invading the USA to secure them, which will almost guarantee a nuclear incident. There are sane heads in the deep state around nuclear that have spent decades working to ensure they don't go off. They will work with foreign intelligence as long as they are able to avoid losing the planet for their families and generations of their children.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

That seems plausible, but I wouldn't underestimate just how irrational these people are either.