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John Campbell: Voters moving away from Labour/National a striking change
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I've only recently started paying any real close attention - what makes you doubt TOP the most out of those 3?
Because their voter base consists entirely of terminally online policy nerds. Both the party and their supporters are completely unable to sell their ideas to normal people.
Also, their tax proposals are dumb.
I'll be amazed if they make 1%.
haha good to know some insight. I'm getting the feel that they are quite detached from reality then?
Detached from reality, and also mostly broke students, from what I can tell.
There's also a disturbing lack of empathy for the people that will be negatively affected by their policies, in particular a vilification of the elderly for wanting to live in their house post retirement. Maorimegacricket on r/newzealand is a notable example of this.
A lot of their supporters are, quite simply, not very pleasant people.
Oof haha. Someone should make a Common Sense party.
Honestly, their biggest issue is there's not much wrong with our current tax system anyway. All we need to do is adjust the brackets for inflation, and perhaps tweak the rates a bit. We don't need a radical overhaul.
Well I have to disagree with you on this. I think there's plenty wrong with a tax system that distorts investment markets and heavily advantages people with wealth over those without by encouraging them to stash it in property, where there are a bunch of tax loopholes.
Whatever the fix for it, I don't see how it can be fixed by tinkering with rates of income tax.
I'm a terminally online policy nerd and am not voting for them - and where the hell are their crime/ law and order/ justice/ policing / corrections policies? I'm not voting for them or anyone until I see those thank you very much. I do like the unrelated policies I do see on their site, but without those crucial policy areas addressed and in some detail I cannot put my vote their way
As a minor party, is it not ok for them to have policies in some areas that they will push for, and have no policies in others where they will go with what the coalition government is proposing?
I'm not saying you're wrong, and I have no idea about those things with TOP, but I'm just proposing the question because I feel like you may have an interesting answer ๐
That'd be fine depending on who they go into coalition with - and if tha's what they intend to do, they should say as much on their site.
That said, its an important policy area not just to me but to a lot of the public (second most important issue in surveys of late if I recall rightly) and I think it would be in their own interests to commit to a policy direction so that people know what they are voting for
That's a pretty solid stance, and makes sense. But to be honest I was hoping for a bit more of an exciting policy nerd answer ๐