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Image description: Image shows batches 1, 2 and 3 sold out for the Ryzen 7 7840HS which costs $1,399.
For now both DIY and prebuild edition (all configurations) are in batch 4 which ships in late Q4 2023.
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I do badly want to like these.. but I don't see the point.
Repairability wise mid range ThinkPad is nearly as good. Only major difference is I think Framework claims they will release schematics... and as someone who actually does component level repairs I've seen promises like this work I've or twice, but then they stop maintaining their data or pays get hard to get rendering the gesture null.
Upgrade wise... I switch machines every 4 to 6 years... at which point the chassis has a bit of wear and tear.
Spec wise I buy what I need and add a little headroom with the ThinkPad.
Spare parts are good for ThinkPad and Lenovo actually has component replacement guides that no one seems to mention or know about.
And when I do upgrade I appreciate having a complete spare machine.
I think it's also not unreasonable to assume my style of buying and upgrading is not uncommon.
This leaves the Framework very few hardware advantages and nil price advantages.
I still think they're a great idea, but I don't see any practical benefit over a sensible alternative.
Genuine question... Have I missed anything?
I think that swappable GPUs are the killer feature. A 7 year old CPU is fine, a 7 year old GPU not so much.
Seven years is a bit harsh, but upgrading the gpu once in 3-4 years would have saved you money and electronic waste.
7 year isnt that bad. I like to always say if you vare about how hardware ages as a gamer, match the consoles of the current generation.
So any decent 8c/16t cpu will likely age fine for the foreseeable generation. With gpus, ot was a matter of matching what the consoles have reserved for vram (10-14gb depending on how much ram the game reserves for itself and the OS). Its why 8 gb vram gpus are aging like milk with the current gen.
I'm still running a PC from 2012. It's seriously fine, I only started feeling it last year. Looking to upgrade next month.
Still remains to be seen how cost effectively the actual upgrade can be done.
Replacement/ upgrade GPUs are not a new thing and have failed to take off in the past.
MXM was the name of the form factor... Info for the curious... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_PCI_Express_Module