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We could have taken that approach with cars as well. Who needs more than 20HP anyway? We should have just kept repairing the Model T and been happier with what we have, right?
Maybe the EU πͺπΊ should legislate that German car companies should cease to produce new cars and instead commit to repairing what they have already produced, for free presumably?
Take your disgust at this post and now apply it to what you're talking about π.
This response is nonsensical. Auto manufacturers support their vehicles for decades after a car is made.
Your car gets serviced for free for decades after you've bought it? Damn I've been ripped off all these years.
You pay to get your car serviced but with your phone you don't even have that option. When the manufacturer drops support, you don't even have the option to pay for prolonged software support.
Car manufacturers also tend to make parts available for decades. They tend to be pretty reasonably priced too.
And there is a large selection of different manufacturers that can make these parts once the OEM stops. Try to find a company that is making and stocking a 5 year old phone display, camera module, etc
That would be a fair comparison if i could replace my screen or camera for free. You pay for the parts and the labor either way.
To be fair, cars can be used indefinitely if maintained. No blackberry from decades past can function on today's cell and Internet networks effectively, even if maintained.
20 hursepurses is maybe pushing it, but 30 to 50 kW would actually be plenty if we kept our cars lightweight and aerodynamically efficient instead of insisting on 3-ton ugly boxes with the frontal area of a house.
Hell, for a single-person lightweight (<40 kg empty weight) electrical vehicle that is expected to go no faster than 30 km/h (often legally limited to 25km/h here in EU) and requires no license to operate, 250 to 300 W is more than enough.
Lotus had it right.
Hey, how am I supposed to compensate for my immeasurably small penis with such vehicles?
Heh, I always find someone pushing 30 km/h with one's own muscles, not caring about weather going through rain, cold and heatwaves while carrying what they need to carry far more hardcore (won't use the word "masculine" because people of any gender do this) than someone sitting in a heated seat in climate-controlled box that moves forward without any effort from the user and not even requiring significant driving skills in the age of automatic transmission, traction control and all the other electronic assists (ABS is fine and recommended)π
- "Hey, look at this bike, it cost 2000 $!"
- "Wow, really?"
Cars are heavier with long noses because of crumple zones and stronger cabins that are exponentially safer for passengers than older cars. They're also far safer for pedestrians and bicyclists. Lotus makes cars that are impractical for any amount of cargo (you're not doing your grocery shopping in it) and their crash tests show they're far less safe for drivers and pedestrians. 50kW couldn't safely accelerate even a tiny 1 tonne vehicle onto any highway.
We are OK with sitting in our cars hours on end, day by day. That's where the problem starts..
Edit: my smaller car is 54 KW, I went on the highway with it. Doable. Not fun. High consumption.
For a lot of people, particularly in large, spread out countries there's no choice. Someone has to deliver freight, some people have to commute to work, etc.
OP is talking about software updates, and you are talking about one of the few products nowadays where decades old models can be maintained without excessive cost.
In most countries the Model T is exempt from any kind of safety inspection and classes of tax, making it an excellent option for the maliciously compliant engineer π
Why not? While they're at it they can start making buses and trains.
Mercedes in particular absolutely nailed bus design with their Citaro, then promptly proceeded to make a hideous looking successor π€’ perhaps their car designers can fix that
Mercedes has been screwing the customer for quite some time already. Their old cars are cute tho and easy to get fixed.
You have very confidently missed the point of the post.
Do they stop making oil and air filters for your car after 3 years? Do the seatbelts artificially refuse to connect after 3 years? Lol
Not equivalent.