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[-] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No, but liberalism the ideology explicitly rejects corporatism. Neither the DNC or GOP have 1 ideology, but I think it's fair to say, every major DNC candidate at least since Gore has been corporatist.

Liberalization of the economy directly led to what you call corporatism

Maybe to some extent, but an illiberal economy still has a lot of corporatism. See Transnistria lol. And, in a perfectly liberal economy(which admittedly will never exist) there could be no corporatism, as there would be no state power for corporations to wield. In a less perfect world, a limited state, such as by strong constitution, limits the possibility of corporate abuse.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Liberalism as a practical model and liberalism as an ideology are not necessarily the same.

Letting the free market loose will absolutely result in a state, as Private Property cannot exist without a state, and as such larger Capitalists will build up a state to protect their interests.

Even if you had a limited state with a strong constitution initially, the Capitalists will absolutely abuse what power they can to build up a stronger state.

If by putting liberal policies into action results in illiberal consequences, then it's fair to call them consequences of liberalism.

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