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Palestinians mourn their relatives killed in the Israeli bombardment of the Gaza Strip, outside a morgue in Rafah, southern Gaza, Wednesday, Jan. 10, 2024. (AP Photo/Fatima Shbair)

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[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Israel has never seriously offered 2 state solution. They've dangled terrible deals that no one would take, even them in the Palestinian position, or they've withdrawn at the first sign or excuse, whether it was related to ongoing deals or not. The only time they got close, their leader was assassinated by a a radical Zionist. They still haven't followed the conditions of deals they have agreed to, like retreating to pre-1967 borders in the first UN accords, they continue to expand settlements and don't grant autonomy like they said they would in the 1978 Camp David Accords or the Oslo Accords. Every time Israel tries to push off actually dealing with a Palestinian state, water rights, Palestinians being able to return to homes they were kicked out of, or expanding settlements for another 5 years. Even a US negotiator and Jimmy Carter during the Camp David negotiations said they wouldn't have taken the deal Israel offered to the Palestinians.

Basically, Israel and the US always finds the line for Palestinians and tries to make a deal beyond that line, or pushes off the biggest issues of a sovereign state into the future. When Palestinians try to go back to an earlier deal, Israel and the US creates new terms that are beyond the line again. It shows a lack of good faith in actually wanting to make a deal. They dangle peace but don't actually want it. What they want is all the land, no native Palestinians to deal with, and they want the international community to get off their back.

And no, I'd be very unhappy if a homeless man killed my family. But even I would realize that it's way more likely to be a homeless man or gang member or someone like that who killed my whole family than a well rested, sheltered, mentally stable citizen. That wouldn't mean I'd want to kill all homeless people, though. From an emotional standpoint, maybe I'd want to initially, but it's the job of others to know that it wouldn't help, that it would be better to solve the underlying conditions of homelessness. I'm not defending it, I'm explaining why it happens so we can stop it from keep happening.

After all, there would just be more homeless people made after I killed them all, because it's a systemic issue. Same thing with Hamas. Killing them all isn't a solution, it's solving the underlying system of oppression that produces them. It's the job of people with calmer minds or who went through this shit before or who study history, like us Americans who made similar mistakes after 9/11 or studied what happened to the Native Americans, to put a stop to it and implement actual solutions even if they're not as satisfying as violence, to save others from the same fate in the future.

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