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[-] Numberone@startrek.website 6 points 10 months ago

In 2020, after Bernie was kneecapped by the dems, one of the state dems got on our organizing discord and said something to the effect of "sorry guys, but don't forget to vote dems". I voted Biden and got this. I got a party that refused to govern, who let a single rogue dem stop trillions of dollars worth of programs for what was it, a year?

I respectfully reject the framing that a non-vote for Biden is a vote for Trump. At literally any point, the dems could have chosen a different way. Hell, they could've just NOT eliminated the primary in all but name, but no. They've chosen the undemocratic, unproductive, detremental path we're on. They refuse to own their fuckups, blaming them on conspiracy theories and an American populace that doesn't understand the great things they're doing. They don't deserve votes and, I'm sorry, but I don't owe them shit for what little they've done. We don't know what comes of this in the end. Maybe Trump does win, maybe it's so grotesque that it snaps people in the other direction (cope).

If they lose, it isn't my just fault. It's also theirs, mostly theirs. They've worked long and hard to repress the left. So I'll be here, comfy in my bed on election day, completely repressed.

(And yeah, they are leaking that Biden is an old annoyed boy with Netanyahu. But that's just because they know Biden's committed path is so unbelievably unpopular, but also they don't want to do anything about it, so they "leak" that our senile boy is thinking reeeeeally hard about all this. The US hold ALL the cards here, and every day this goes on is a day Biden is choosing not to do anything about it. So I don't think him not talking to Bibi for a month while still offering unwavering support is a sign of progress)

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 points 10 months ago
[-] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Okay, I could write an essay response to that but I'll keep it simple:

Is Biden better than Trump? Which leader will we be more likely to make positive changes under?

If you think they're the same, you are a fool. If you think Biden is better but don't vote for him, you are voting against your own interests. The spoiler effect basically means elections are more about which guy you don't want to win rather than which guy you do.

I get it, I don't like picking between bad and worse either. Doesn't mean I'm not going to get out there and do my part to make sure worse doesn't win.

[-] MaoZedongers@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago
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