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submitted 1 year ago by bossito@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.de

Hundreds of protesters stormed the Swedish embassy in Baghdad in the early hours of Thursday morning and set it on fire, a source familiar with the matter and a Reuters witness said, in a protest against the expected burning of a Koran in Sweden.

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[-] karbotect@feddit.de -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Muslims in Sweden probably don't love this move either.

Should Swedes also support demonstrations, where Muslim Swedes burn Bibles, Torahs, LGBTIQ+ flags etc, as long as they cite "freedom of speech" and or wanting to do a "social experiment" as their primary motivation?

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

They do

A Muslim activist who had received permission to burn a Torah and a Bible outside the Israeli embassy in Sweden on Saturday said he was backing off from the move, adding that he only wanted to draw attention to the recent burning of the Quran in the country.

[-] karbotect@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago
[-] bossito@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's not about supporting. Swedish officials have been condemning these acts. It's about allowing it or not and if not, on which basis? Geopolitics is not the rule of the land... and shouldn't be. People manipulating mobs against Sweden know all this and still do it, they're the ones at fault here.

[-] teslasaur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Should Swedes also support demonstrations, where Muslim Swedes burn Bibles, Torahs, LGBTIQ+ flags etc, as long as they cite “freedom of speech” and or wanting to do a “social experiment” as their primary motivation?

Support? No, and Sweden certainly doesn't "support" the burning. But the government should absolutely not interfere with the right to demonstrate or burn whatever the fuck the individual owns and paid for with their own money.

I should probably mention that a record breaking gathering held a muslim prayer (which requires the same permission as the quran-protest) the same day in gothenburg: https://www.gp.se/nyheter/g%C3%B6teborg/tusentals-samlades-f%C3%B6r-b%C3%B6n-i-slottsskogen-historiskt-1.103502911

Should the government block that too?

[-] karbotect@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Is praying publicly the same for you as burning the Quran? I don't see the similarity.

[-] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Did you miss the point on purpose?

I said that the law view them equally because the law/government isn't supposed to interfere with free speech. That doesn't mean that the people that make up the government have to agree with what the individual does under their right to free speech.

[-] karbotect@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Bro your point doesn't make sense.

Praying in public is a threat to nobody.

Burning holy books or symbols of ethnic or religious minorities is a potential attempt to cultivate hate among the masses.

Just look at this comment section, people here pretend that this burning is a proof of every Islamophobic talking point that they have ever read about in some schizo Youtube comments.

Free speech stops when it has the potential to severly restrict the freedom of other people's lifes imo. This applies more or less to pretty much every Western country.

One could argue whether or not this is the case here, but having the police escort and protect the madmen while they burn the Quran, is just beyond free speech under any definition.

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