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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[-] Trincapinones@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Even better, an open source car!

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago

There's already an open source bike. Carrying several tons of metal everywhere you go is kind of a bad idea anyway.

[-] Trincapinones@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

What about people that don't live in the city where public transportation between towns is trash?

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Don't you think it's interesting that even though the vast majority of car trips are a single person going less than a mile, every time someone brings up bikes the rebuttal is always "what if I need to move my family of 16 and their refrigerator 800 miles in freezing rain!?"

The US was built on rail. The infrastructure could be fixed. It's a choice not to fix it. It would be better to put in energy to fixing this than creating an open source way to access a proprietary transit system. Infrastructure is the problem, car vendors are just exploiting it.

Edit: correction, 52% of trips in the US in 2021 were under 3 miles and 28% are under a mile according to US DoE (https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1230-march-21-2022-more-half-all-daily-trips-were-less-three-miles-2021). 2% we're over 50 miles. Over 60% were under 5 miles, which is still pretty easy with an eBike given functional infrastructure.

[-] Trincapinones@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but I'm not from the US, I'm from a small town in Europe, you can put "all that effort" in both places at the same time because they are 2 completelly different problems

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net -1 points 10 months ago

They aren't two completely different problems, they're in direct opposition. Making cars more tolerable increases demand for cars. Improving mass transit and bike infrastructure decreases demand. One is sustainable, the other is not.

[-] devilish666@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I think the term you mean is old car especially from before 2018
in the end old cars basically open source you can modified it whatever you want as long as not breaking regulations

[-] Trincapinones@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

So my two options are a repairable old gasoline/diesel car or a non reparaible electric/hydrogen car?

[-] devilish666@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yup, that's the only choice not you but everyone get

[-] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Nissan Leafs are plenty DIY repairable. It was part of our decision making process when considering buying an EV. There's also electric conversions if that's your jam.

[-] psud@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Some of us want all the internet connected options. And want to own their machine and have good security

Open source car software and firmware would do that

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