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submitted 10 months ago by CynicusRex@kbin.social to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I've always felt guilty by taking for granted the rare breed of virtuous humans that provide free excellent software without relying on advertising. Let's change that and pay, how much would I “lose” anyway?

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[-] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 10 months ago

Well, your assumption that I heard (or I am) an anarchocaptalist is wrong. I have a lot of critics to the captalist system.

I fiercely disagree with dismantle of public policies. Actually I support free and universal healthcare system (like I have in my country), free and good educational system, free and public transportation system, and many other ideas. However all of these free stuff are paid with our taxes. It's public and free, but it's not out of charges, cause someone is paying (this case all of us).

But for this to happen, it's necessary public policies to invest public money on every one of these projects. Afterall, nothing is free.

In the other hand, we have a lot of FOSS software, that most of them is maintained by one person or a small group of persons. Maybe this software may solve an issue to a specific person, but it's not relevant to the most part of the users. There is no interest to invest public money to pay for these kind of projects, cause they don't solve anything meaningful for the majority. It does not means that the project is meaningless, but it's not relevant enough to get investment.

The maintainers of these projects have their bills to pay. If they can't pay their bills, they will certainly abandon the project to make money. It's not good for anyone.

If the FOSS community normalize paying for the apps, probably we'll have a much stronger community. But don't get me wrong, when I say "paying" I don't mean as in a closed source apps where if we don't pay, we can't use it. I mean paying like a tip. Zorin OS do this very well. Bitwarden too. Many FOSS apps do it.

Of course it will be really good if public policies support these kind of development, but it's not an easy task.

Remember, despite you and I dislike the capitalism and how society is structured today, we still live in this society and we (and the devs) have to pay our bills.

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

No, hey, let me be clear, I don't think you're actively an ideologue, but you can absolutely disagree or actively advocate against it and still have your worldview filtered through that lens. None of us is immune to their context or their upgringing, least of all me.

What I do say is that the notion that "it's not free, it all comes from taxes" is a very active framing, and it comes from an anarchocapitalist perspective, whether you agree with it or not. Yes, there is a cost to public services. And yes, you do have to tax people to fund the government that is meant to provide those services, but paying taxes isn't the same as paying for a service, and public services aren't "services you pay with your taxes", they're... well, public services.

And in the same vein, having an industry built on tipping is not sustainable and yeah, it's a fairly (anarcho)capitalist perspective. Screw tips. You can contribute to an open source project, be it with cash, work, promotion or whatever, but you're definitely not obligated to do so and that systemmust work within those parameters. FOSS is not software paid in tips, that's not the point. It may be crowdsourced, but that's not the same thing.

So hey, I get it, you don't ideologically support those things, consciously. If you take anything from my comment let it be that you're still thinking about it from that framework and there are other ways to frame it. You're right that eventually the money has to come from somewhere, but how you frame the situation impacts which somewheres you're willing to explore.

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