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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de to c/linux@lemmy.ml

TL;DR: I wonder why we always have the same 2 posts as top posts of the day. They appear a bit unnecessary and mildly annoying to me.
Do you think the same? Or do you like them, and can explain me why, so I can change my view?
Please don't just blindly downvote, writing this post took a lot of time. And if you feel the need to do it anyway, tell me why first.


Maybe I am the only person who thinks that.
I probably am, at least according to numbers.

Basically, I've got the feeling that every top post of the day for the last weeks is something like "I've freed myself from evil Windows' shackles and finally switched to Linux.", or "What distro do you recommend?".

Don't get me wrong.
I feel super happy for every newcomer discovering the wonderful world of Linux and FOSS.
I, just like most others here, always try to help them in finding their right distro and guiding them in their first steps.
We all have been there.
And I'm super proud of us all, as a community, that we happily embrace every new member. We definitely have to keep that behaviour, it's what connects us and makes us strong.

I just think we should redirect them a bit onto the specific communities.
Not by banning or censoring, just as friendly reminder, e.g. by a sticky post, comments like "Hey, check out !linux4noobs@lemmy.world" or something else.

It doesn't help much if there are the same threads every day, with people circlejerking on hating Windows and recommending Mint a hundred times, just like 100 people before did on the same thread.

I hate Windows too, but it feels like we're identifying and comparing ourselves with the bitter ex-partner we had a while ago. No, not being Windows shouldn't be the main reason Linux is great.
There are so many great posts and discussions, that are all going missing in this swamp of "Winblows bad, hehe".
We should focus on what makes our software great, and not what the "bad ex-partner" did wrong.

Same with newcomer posts.
I think if the posters get redirected to the correct sub, they will receive more help, since the people partaking in the community are there because they wanna see exactly that.


At the same time, I'm afraid this would undermine our openness and friendliness of this community, and result in being as shitty as Reddits' sub.

!Just as an anecdote, when I was a noob, I posted a question there, and, like 5 minutes later, I got a dozen of non-constructive, offensive comments. 10 minutes later, my post got removed. This was my first contact to the Linux world btw. Guess who switched back to Windows for another half year because of that?
We have to prevent this at any costs.
Anyway... !<


I really enjoy this community here and wanna keep it this great.
I just wanted to ask you, what you think about those everyday-top-posts.
If you like them, please try to change my mind and explain me why :)


Edit/ Additional stuff/ Learnings:

  • I don't hate those "I switched to Linux"-posts, just to clarify. They're fine for me, they just feel like white noise. But I've read many times in this thread that a lot of people enjoy those posts. If that's the case, I'm totally fine! :)
  • I think putting those posts in a weekly sticky thread could be worth an idea? Then everyone could describe their experience of this week of switching from one distro to another, e.g. "My first week of Gentoo" or something like this. Would be an interesting read for everyone.
  • I also believe those "Fuck Windows"-posts can be kind of therapeutic for some people, since Windows became really shitty and annoying in the last years. And when you feel the relieve from finally getting rid of it, you tell that everyone. Understandable.
  • Splitting the community isn't the best idea too. We can always learn from each other and I like the diversity of this community.
  • Thank you for your kind and constructive answers! ✌️
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[-] Laitinlok@lemmy.laitinlok.com 6 points 11 months ago
[-] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

I think explaining why you think so would be better than just saying "No" and not elaborating further.

Could you maybe please tell me your stance on that in more detail, in case nobody else already explained it better?

[-] Skyhighatrist@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago

Personally, I'm finding all of these complaining posts to be far more irritating.

[-] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

It's a valid point for sure.
But I also think "complaining" is a great thing everybody should make use of if one feels like something is going the wrong way.

A community is made out of many people, and everybody should have a right to decide the direction.
Often, from those "complaints", are coming good and innovative ideas and betterments.

If no one makes constructive criticism, nothing will get better.

[-] Skyhighatrist@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

But the constant criticism of these new users posting in this community makes for a pretty unwelcoming community. If we want Linux's market share to grow and become more relevant to the average user, and we really should, then we need to be a welcoming community that encourages new users. Not a community that is hostile to new users. The good news is that it seems the majority of users here aren't complaining. But the complaint posts have been increasing it seems, and I'd personally like to see that stop.

Instead of complaining, if you don't like a post downvote and move on.

[-] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I got lucky, I converted from the ol' shitheap that reddit became at the time of the protests.

This was in the before-times when folks here were more excited about helping people see the FOSS light than they were complaining about people searching for the FOSS light (repeatedly).

I never needed to make a post of my own, there were a good few getting around and a LOT of helpful/insightful/educational comments with a derth of information and sources provided for further investigation.

Once again (as previously in this comment section), I vote megathread.

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