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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world

I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don't, you weren't paying attention.

Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton's campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we're being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election "We're about to get Brexited." I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980's.

Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They're the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.

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[-] MudMan@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

Ah, yes, the fallacy where the Republicans are the de facto winners and the election is only up to what the Democrats do.

I mean, yeah, they ran a mediocre campaign, but there is a difference between "critiquing our leaders" and literally campaigning against them, and leftist in general have a hard, hard, HARD time with that one. Critique is for when you're in power. You analize, you apply your newfound political power to create pressure, you postmortem what went wrong. Campaigns are for winning.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And every year we're told it's "not the time to critique the Democrats" because its "too close to an election."

Dude, I'm pushing fucking fifty and this has been every year of my fucking life with this "this is not the time for critique" shit. When is gonna be a good time to critique them? Because it sure fucking feels like the argument is never or this wouldn't have been going on since fucking Bill Clinton left the Presidency.

[-] Lonewolfmcquade@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

THIS. I feel this. If I could super-upvote, I would. The same argument is deployed towards anyone voting 3rd party. The argument that ranked choice voting is the solution to a lot of problems, is valid. But we are never going to get that either so long as we keep diligently voting for the less evil between two parties. Seems like "never" is the answer to the question of when a lot of imperative, necessary, vital change is going to happen.

Given this dynamic, I can understand how anyone who has been paying attention, becomes disillusioned with our system and votes immorally just to encourage some change, even if it's making things worse. I don't condone it, but I see it happening and I can understand why

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