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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 83 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Come now, we've invaded far fewer of the world's countries than the UK.

The real hypocrisy is that every last fucking one of us comes from immigrants, and yet half of us are eager to pull up the ladder behind us.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Invaded fewer, yes. Destabilised for greed and oil, causing mass migration to European countries, that's a whole other story lol

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I was napping when they asked us if they should do that.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz -3 points 1 year ago

Wait, was I complaining? Can you even read?

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Except the natives who people just like to forget

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

we might be forgot but we never forget

its just that we want our ancestral land to be preserved and respected. Rare have I ever heard someone from the rez hate on refuges. Our anger is purely with the way we are treated by our own federal government and by corporations.

So if you need to leave your homeland because of reasons?

Let's continue what was started in 1492

LET THE REFUGES COME AND BE PROSPEROUS. JUST LIKE YOUR ANCESTORS.

The great turtle island is big enough to hold us all on her back. Boarders should never exist.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Borders*

Boarders can be cool people

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

If that's the only flaw in my English, I will call that a win!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn’t the natives immigrate from Asia?

[–] Tbird83ii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Correct. Between 30,000 and 16,000 years ago, humans came to North America from Siberia..

At least as far as we know so far.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They found a footprint in San Diego, back in the late 90s that shows that people were here at least ~~120,000~~ 20,000 years ago or some shit.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oldest found in North America is 23,000 years old.

A 120,000 year old footprint was found in Saudi Arabia, obviously that is the cradle of civilization, as far as we know.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Shit I conflated the two, thanks.

[–] SpezBroughtMeHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. There's no 'natives'. Shits been getting invaded and conquered forever.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People have been dying from measles for forever. We know better now and can stop.

[–] SpezBroughtMeHere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because everything was invaded in the past doesn't mean we can't do it differently in the future.

[–] SpezBroughtMeHere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does either of your comments relate to my point of there being no natives?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The idea that there are no natives and everywhere has been invaded forever implies that is the normal way of things.

[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well yeah but so long ago that I wouldn't really count that as immigration in modern sense. Since technically everyone is immigrant except the bery first humans that existed. And if you really want to stretch it far we all immigrated from the sea before we even were humans

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Alright, every last one of us who isn't of 'pure blood' in the US comes from immigrants.

[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone originates from Africa.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

To be fair the UK hasn't invaded many countries that still exist. Their creation of new countries is responsible for about half of global conflicts, but the didn't invade those countries.

[–] firewood010@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

They are the descendants of those broken countries tho

First sentence is pretty much invalidated by your second one.