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The author argues that Florida is struggling in many ways recently. Ron DeSantis' handling of the COVID pandemic led to many preventable deaths in Florida, contradicting early articles praising his response. Now DeSantis is known more for his anti-gay and anti-science stances rather than effective governance. His campaign for president seems doomed to fail due to his lack of charisma and poor performance as governor. The author expresses sympathy for Florida residents dealing with the fallout of climate change, disasters, and poor leadership.

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[-] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

35% of the population turned out to vote.

So ~~65%~~ 60.35% [edited to account for the provided evidence of voter suppression] of Floridians weren't sufficiently motivated to try to change the government after living through a first DeSantis term.

Yes, yes, I know, "voter suppression", "disenfranchised", etc. I'm sorry if I have a hard time believing that 65% of FL really super-duper wanted to vote but were prevented from doing so by systemic corruption; that would put Florida in the same ballpark as Somalia in terms of governmental autocracy.

At some point, we just have to cut our losses and scram. That's why I left Arkansas, and am now squished into a tiny, overpriced, neglected little apartment with a roommate in a blue state, slowly working on replacing all my stuff.

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago

Yes, yes, I know, “voter suppression”, “disenfranchised”, etc. I’m sorry if I have a hard time believing that 65% of FL really super-duper wanted to vote but were prevented from doing so by systemic corruption; that would put Florida in the same ballpark as Somalia in terms of governmental autocracy.

you live in the United States, where an unelected panel of partisans make binding law on completely baseless grounds all the time and where universal voter enfranchisement happened so recently there are living people who could not vote because of their skin tone. i don't know why you out of hand dismiss this as a possibility.

[-] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

i don’t know why you out of hand dismiss this as a possibility.

Because there's no evidence.

"65% of all the eligible voters in Florida were prevented from voting due to direct governmental interference and extreme voter suppression" is a fantastic claim. One might even call it an extraordinary claim. One for which I would expect to see some fairly extraordinary evidence. I can't just wake up in the morning and decide to believe something because it fits with my preconceived biases, especially not something directly involving almost 14 million people.

Are you actually expecting me to believe that 14 million people tried to show up at the polls and were turned away, without any evidence whatsoever? That's a Q-level conspiracy.

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where did I claim 65% of the population was actively suppressed? I'm assuming you're talking about my comment. Never said that. As a matter of fact, I never said anything about voter suppression at all and neither did the comment above mine.

The Dems ran a weak campaign with the human equivalent of a wet fart for a candidate. The progressive candidate, Nikki fried, hardly received any mainstream coverage (I wonder why) and lost the primaries. You were right that people didn't feel motivated to vote. I worked to change that but at the end of the day,.I don't really blame anyone for not turning up to vote for a spineless, moderate, ex-republican-cum-democrate. The people want change. And that wasn't what the Dems were offering.

However, I would like to add, that voter suppression is a much larger issue than you're making it out to be. And not a lot of it is the highly visible forms that you've been describing. Just a few ways that people have been prevented from voting:

-Vote by mail ballots being disqualified

-vote by mail becoming more restricted

-Making voter registration difficult and inaccessible

-Arresting people for voter fraud on no legal basis

-voter intimidation via poll watching

-Gerrymandering

And those are just what I could think of off the top of my head. Thats just a part of a greater conversation on how our elections are poorly designed. How first past the post voting, leads to a lot of the problems we have today. How the electoral college should be abolished. How the bills our government pass don't correlate at all with popular support/majority opinion. I could go on. The extraordinary evidence you want to see is out there. Voter suppression and terrible election practices are a blight on this country.

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