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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 133 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Oh boy liberal vs conservative, what a wide variety of political opinion allowed for by the "financial times"

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't think they use the definition of liberal that you think they're using.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They’re not, this is the traditional polling version of liberal vs. conservative — the one that everyone who is not terminally online uses and can understand as it has been around for over a century.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It wouldn't make sense to ask people are you conservative or conservative, would it?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Exactly. And these terms have been used in both academic and general public forums for a very long time. It’s such a weird thing to get hung up on.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

Also, outside of opinion pieces, the FT tends to be fairly central, as it's generally purchased by people who want information to make financial decisions with.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FT is pretty solid when it comes to data analysis like this. The point is to show a specific trend not to encompass all the data in the sources.

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think they understood "liberal" to mean "classical liberal" which obviously would have the issue they point out. But FT seems to be using "liberal" to mean "progressive" or something like that.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What other social ideology is there?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most of these are political ideologies. I asked for social ideologies.

It's clear what liberal and conservative means here.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're the same thing. Politics are simply a manifestation of a persons social values.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Agree to disagree. Liberal in this context means not forcing women to have children, not suppressing LGBTQ community, and not discriminating people based on their race, gender, or sexuality.

Reserve this 'right and righter' snark for some other time, when it's applicable.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it -2 points 2 years ago

Yes, these graphs don't many any sense other than generating clicks.