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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What in the hell are they using them for? They hold so little data I don’t see how they can even be practical at this point.

[–] bfg9k@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Older Boeing's use floppies to update their flight computer data even today

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And Boeing is obviously trustworthy when it comes to maintenance.

[–] reinar@distress.digital 6 points 1 year ago

ones with floppies are alright, beware modern ones.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if it aint broke dont fix it. That door plug on the other hand

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember using floppies and they broke a lot. Probably more than USB drives

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's weird, I've always thought of floppies as pretty durable. The 3.5" ones anyway; the older larger ones were flimsier. On the 3.5" ones the little metal cover would get bent sometimes, or occasionally crushed if someone put one in a back pocket and forgot before they sat down; but in my career I've had a lot more thumbdrives broken off in the port than bent/crushed floppies. How did you find most of yours broke? Maybe I had an abundance of clumsy colleagues... or maybe I joined the IT workforce too late to have witnessed the tsunami of broken floppies!

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Thumbdrives broken off in the port?? That's some degenerate levels of sexual frustration coming to light, brother..

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

where I live (not Japan), trams are updated with a suitcase worth of floppy disks (and these are the more modern trams here)

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One thing came to mind, Irreplaceable infrastructure computer systems from decades ago.

There are powerplants and oil rigs that use computer from decades ago which is irreplaceable (either due to technical or cost effective).

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

either due to technical or cost effective

Mainly due to proprietary hardware+software solutions which cannot be ported now and remaking them with new hardware will require redoing the same processes as before (probably with additional stuff added by later laws) all over again.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

If you try to replace just the hardware, you get fun solutions like a modern computer with a VM running Dosbox on critical infrastructure. Hey, if it works and your boss is willing to sign off on it...

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

10 to one they weren't, look how oddly this article is phrased. I'd guess there was a rule government offices had to accept floppy discs, have the equipment to read them, but the clients weren't actually submitting that way anymore.

[–] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like, the first paragraph explains.

Until last week there were about 1,900 official governmental application procedures that stipulated businesses must submit floppies or CD-ROMs (specifically) containing supplementary data.

Not "the government had to accept them", but "businesses were required to submit them".

It's not a hypothetical problem, there was even news a few years ago about how businesses were complaining they had to send in a dozen+ disks at a time because of file formats.

The laws were written at the dawn of the digital age, in the 70s and 80s, stipulating specific storage media, and just never got updated because the government didn't view it as a problem.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah so I read the whole article and it's all phrased like it wants to convince you of that.

[–] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

You're welcome to do your own research, then. Or just make a call based off your read of their vibes, doesn't matter to me.

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upvoted because proper'ish use of 10 and one. :)

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is there another way to express it except : ?

[–] psud@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

10 to 1. Many style guides require numbers lower than 10 to be spelt out. Many people think that what style guides say is "correct"

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will never accept spelt nor smelt, unless we're talking about grains and ore refining, respectively.

[–] psud@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fine. Spelled vs spelt is different regionally in the UK. I was taught "spelled", I say it as spelled, but more often than not I type it spelt because it's easier on a glass keyboard

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hahaha I can respect that. I do have a pretty big chip on my shoulder when it comes to language, semantics, syntax, whatever, but I will always let it slide if the counter argument is based around instrumental favorability.

[–] coffee_poops@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Their government agencies still used a lot of them.