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The transphobia stops now (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

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[-] kep@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago

Trans people are cool. Love em. Full human rights for everyone, end discrimination. This post, though, is obnoxious though.

Sending edicts out to the public is never the play. Use your sidebar. Moderate stuff. Make it cool to not be a bigot. But the second you start doing goofy shit like this, you're painting a target on your back and coming across way more fragile than you must actually be.

I personally have a policy about blocking any community that has admins who feel it necessary to try to police people's thoughts. As much as bigots piss me off, this isn't how people conduct themselves in a place that purports to be a safe haven. You don't patronize and denigrate the general public out of frustration, unless you want them as an enemy for some reason. The idea you needed you adjust your terminology in retrospect confirms how poorly you wrote your initial message.

Also, I have to say, "We allowed 196 to be here" is a curious statement. What exactly did you allow? Is opening a community a big endeavor? I've opened up a bunch, and never have I felt like I was owed someone for doing it.

Ban bad behavior. Don't try to tell people how to think. We have a word for the latter and it's not pretty.

[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 1 year ago

So block this instance? I'm not sure why you feel the need to post about it.

Also I have a bone to pick about the 'telling people how to think is wrong. We have a word for the latter and it's not pretty'. Firstly that's pretty polemic for no good reason. Assuming you're dancing round the word fascist, it seems pretty unpleasant and unnecessary to allude to the group that committed genocide of queer people and deliberately destroyed research into trans issues to set it back decades.

Now onto the substance of the claim -- that telling people how to think is fascist. This is completely absurd, the key difference being that fascists don't just 'tell people how to think'; they brutally enforce it with violence.

This post and the trans women making it are not about to use the full force of the state to prevent people thinking about transphobia. What they are doing is posting that, to take part in the community that they are investing money to host, you must unambiguously support trans rights.

The comparison you have implied is completely and utterly absurd, and the dramatic language and comparisons you have used to make it is cringe.

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