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The transphobia stops now (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

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[-] Darthjaffacake@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I'll be honest I think alienating people feeling in the middle is a bad idea, making an echo chainber is ehat those other websites are for, and people on the middle ground are the ones whose beliefs matter the most as they they are the only ones that will change things.

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

There shouldnt be any middle ground on the statement "trans rights are human rights". If you think there's room for compromise on the oppression of marginalized groups then you're either a lost cause or willfully ignorant of the world around you. People that are in a safe space, specifically dedicated to them and people like them, have no obligation to educate or entertain disingenuous "discourse" about whether or not they should be allowed to exist.

[-] boot@lemmy.loungerat.io 14 points 1 year ago

say it louder for the nerds in the back!

[-] Darthjaffacake@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That's not what I'm talking about and yeah there's no middle ground on the fact trans people should have human rights. I'm not sure how to put this into words but pretty much if you live in a place where you can't see trans people around you (as in trans people not being allowed to be free and safe in public) it's hard for people to just get a grasp on "this person exists and is trans and is a person" thats the big milestone. Getting people recognised as people. A while before i dated her i didn't understand how to feel comfortable with the idea (much of it was through fun memes supporting trans stuff in non-toxic ways). But my point is that showing that trans people exist and are normal is really important for the world right now, we need the people in the middle ground to know that your rights are being violated and something needs to be done because the middle does change that vote the most.

[-] lupuspernox@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I don't know any trans people irl so everything I know about them is from 196. I was in no way anti-trans before I started lurking. I would have considered myself the "middle ground" because of my unfamiliarity with it, not because I wasn't sure if they should or should not have rights. I really think this whole post needs to be rephrased because it would have turned me away back then.