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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Something to think about (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 years ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/collapse@lemmy.ml

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We are saying the same. Clearly the Earth ecosystem is proof that with sufficient level of control at nanoscale level sustainability is possible. In fact, physics tells us we can do quite a bit better than that.

Yes, we have effectively stopped trying to relevantly innovate in mid-1970s with some exceptions (semiconductor photolitho, optics and DNA technology). R&D in a collapse environment becomes more difficult, further reducing reachability of high technology regimes necessary for sustainability. Full closure self replication of solar power infrastructure largely with ISRU at small scale is a key technology for that.