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[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

If Russia comes out of this conflict with any gains at all that could be construed as "worth it" for their side it will be an open invitation to keep invasions on the table as a method to apply again in the near future.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 8 months ago

What a moronic take. As though whether or not Russia decides to take all of Europe is based on this one border conflict

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@midwest.social 7 points 8 months ago

So if the author's opinion is correct, then that would not be a good outcome. Do you think they're wrong?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

Russia is literally the biggest country in the world with massive natural resources and very low population density. The idea that Russia will sacrifice its relatively small population for the sake of additional territorial gains is preposterous.

[-] SmokeInFog@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago

They're literally doing that right now, though

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago
[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Yet the main reason countries at Russia's border want to join NATO is to not get attacked by Russia.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago

Nah, the main reason is that their political systems have been captured by US, while propaganda groups like the NED have poured billions into trying to shape public opinion. Yet, despite all that we're now starting to see a huge backlash against all that from the public. The massive farmer protests are just the start of that.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Oh wow, it's the tankie version of US exceptionalism where the US controls everything and is all powerful.

The US had like zero influence in the baltics when they joined, same for Georgia when they wanted to join.

Not sure how farmer protests are involved but I hope you know that the vast majority of farmers in those protests are just people who own the farm. They don't actually work those farms and the protests so far have been against climate regulations that cut into their profit margin.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago

Image believing that US had zero influence in the Baltics despite all the evidence to the contrary.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Imagine not knowing the history of the baltics

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago

looks like you don't have to imagine

[-] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com -2 points 8 months ago

Sounds pretty inflammatory, your a nasty one

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago
[-] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

Ouch, what a pain, kid

[-] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com -2 points 8 months ago

Nope, not true, but provide no facts

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

This is publicly available information. Spend a bit of time learning how google works instead of trolling here.

[-] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

Your talking about the bits which don't support your 'facts'. Unless your looking at what's publicly available in Russia. Troll off, troll

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 months ago

get a better script 😂

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Ukraine being a neo-nazi regime doing ethnic cleansing in Donbas and planning to host NATO weapons that can strike within Russia are precisely in line with the problem of NATO expansion. Incredible that you're unable to understand how a single overarching problem can have multiple aspects to it. Hope that clarified things for you.

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[-] MaeBorowski@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's pretty hilarious how nearly everything you listed as if they're contradictory points actually come together rather comprehensively to support the thesis that Russia is having to fight a belligerent NATO. And the one item that doesn't fit wasn't ever claimed by Russia to be a reason for the conflict.

I seem to have lost track of why he’s invading.

I don't know what anyone can do for you to cure your confusion when you can't even connect the dots between the very things you are linking.

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