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submitted 8 months ago by Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

The country is breaking apart but I guess is more important to avoid using feminine expressions on official papers that make us look homo or something

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[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 11 points 8 months ago

Spanish speakers could have dropped all the final vowels and basically speak Catalan "los ciudadanos" > "els ciutadans", easy! two problems (gender inclusivity and secession of Catalonia) solved at once.../s

[-] willow@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 8 months ago

But the Catalan articles are still gendered

What puzzles me is that many IALs/conlangs based on the Romance languages (Interlingua, Elefen, etc.) insist on having a definite article (either la or le) when it could as well be dropped.

[-] leftzero@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah, some Catalan politicians say “els ciutadans i les ciutadanes”, much like some Spanish politicians say “los ciudadanos y las ciudadanas”. Romance languages tend to have gendered nouns (and by extension articles). 🤷‍♂️

[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 2 points 8 months ago

You are right, I don't speak Catalan and I was trying to downplay a little on a topic which is dramatic (not for the language per se but for the people who can be hurt by it). Auxlangs, being designed for a purpose, could make some little more effort towards inclusiveness. And that would be one of the few reason to prefer them to natlangs (e.g. for institutional communications).

[-] Silentiea@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Tsk, tsk, this willow wants to get rid of THE definite article, but they're too afraid to even say it.

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