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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by redfox@infosec.pub to c/technology@lemmy.world

This article outlines an opinion that organizations either tried skills based hiring and reverted to degree required hiring because it was warranted, or they didn't adapt their process in spite of executive vision.

Since this article is non industry specific, what are your observations or opinions of the technology sector? What about the general business sector?

Should first world employees of businesses be required to obtain degrees if they reasonably expect a business related job?

Do college experiences and academic rigor reveal higher achieving employees?

Is undergraduate education a minimum standard for a more enlightened society? Or a way to hold separation between classes of people and status?

Is a masters degree the new way to differentiate yourself where the undergrad degree was before?

Edit: multiple typos, I guess that's proof that I should have done more college 😄

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[-] Solemarc@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I'm a developer working for a SaaS company and you didn't NEED a degree to get hired but it sure was a "nice to have."

[-] redfox@infosec.pub 5 points 8 months ago

Did your degree help you with:

  • your technical job/duties?
  • general business?
  • general literacy and soft skills (writing/commination/problem solving)?
[-] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ive heard from quite a few developers that people without degrees in CS program differently than with a degree. CS teaches the theoretical fundamentals that you could go your entire life without knowing and still perform well in a job, but they do help when e.g. building novel solutions, reframing problems into more general problems that were solved 40 years ago, and getting an overview of how everything works can prevent reinventing the wheel.

[-] redfox@infosec.pub 3 points 8 months ago

That's an excellent point/observation.

Do you believe that organizations could have a mix of both types of people?

[-] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago

Sure. There are benefits to devs without degrees, as they usually start working earlier in their lives so they have more work experience. And hard screening for a degree is probably not helpful anyway, there are other ways to become a proficient developer. You can read about the fundamentals without ever going to a class about it!

[-] Solemarc@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
  • Kind of, I work mainly in PHP, Python & JS the only one of those that I was exposed to in school was PHP. I learnt the other two on my own after graduating. I did also get a little exposure to git in school but I learnt more about it in a month or so of being hired then I did in school. I also got a lot of, how to do documentation, how to analyse requirements, etc.
  • what does this mean?
  • 1000% yes.
[-] redfox@infosec.pub 1 points 8 months ago

general business

Concepts of standard American businesses,. communication, business processes, professional presentation, product production life cycles, business man/women stuff

[-] Solemarc@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

In that case, this is also a yes.

[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Nepotism/cronyism will get you a lot further than a silly piece of paper.

IMO the most important thing about college is the people you meet. Build a large network of individuals who know you, and know where you want to be, and one of them might just get your foot in the door.

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