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There are few things quite as emblematic of late stage capitalism than the concept of "planned obsolescence".

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[-] keeb420@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

You're also not a giant customer who needs security and it services like a school district. 3 years might be early, idk, but in plenty of enterprise or institutes replace their hardware every so often.

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My 2012 laptop runs windows 10 perfectly fine and has the latest security updates. We're way past the point of using hardware limitations as an excuse for companies to drop support early.

I don't see why a school should have to replace their basic computers with an equally basic computer after 3 years unless it's broken beyond repair. I don't think the OS itself is doing much more than what an enterprise copy of windows does for security.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

The only reason Windows 11 can't run on super old hardware is because of the misleading decision to require secure boot (a feature of the motherboard that stops unsigned OSes from booting). The metaphor I use is that it is like a car radio manufacturer refusing to let a car radio work in cars that don't have car alarms then calling the radio secure because of it.

[-] AWildMimicAppears@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The secure boot requirement can actually be circumvented pretty easily

[-] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Windows 11 is a bad example of supporting old hardware because Microsoft stupidly and maliciously requires secure boot and TPM2 just to lock out otherwise fine hardware from using Windows 11. You can run Win11 without secure boot or TPM2 with mods, the hardware is perfectly capable.

Or just put Linux on it. Linux runs on damn near everything because it's designed to run on damn near everything. There's no profit motive to only support Linux on the newest and shiniest devices like there is for Apple, Google, Samsung, and even Microsoft (who sells most copies of Windows preinstalled on new PCs).

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

How do I go about running Win 11 without secure boot? I have a BIOS motherboard from 2009. Windows 10 is EOL relatively soon. I plan on getting a new computer and using some genre of Linux but I'm curious what to do about the current one.

[-] Nath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Funny you should say this. I have a 2012 Retina Macbook Pro, and yes it is running Windows or Linux with all the latest updates. However, Apple stopped supporting it in 2020. It's too old for MacOS updates.

I've even seen a guide that will allow me to hack past the normal BIOS restrictions/allow me to put Windows 11 on it.

[-] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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