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R(ul)evenge USA edition
(lemmy.blahaj.zone)
The discourse on American politics sometimes devolves to "Leftists who won't vote" & "MAGA Republicans" teaming up to "getting revenge on liberals".
In 2016, the leftists and MAGA got revenge on liberals by getting roe overturned and installing a conservative court for a generation. Leftists are really humble though, because few will take credit for this historic achievement.
Non-american here, why is it that the 2016 election was lost because of a "leftists not voting" boogeyman instead of Hillary Clinton being a deeply unsympathetic canidate, pushing away an objectively better canidate (Bernie) because it was "her time", and doing jack-shit to visit swing states to give speeches? From what I remember, she did the bare minimum because she thought she would have the election in the bag anyway.
Oh, and that whole court thing, wasn't that because of that piece of shit democrat judge not retiring under obama because she had some main character syndrome or something and instead decided to die under a republican president? Why is she not the one at fault here?
Damn, even foreigners get the deal better than resistance libs.
Oh no why didn't the DNC serve me my ideal candidate in a silver platter? I didn't participate in primaries, I didn't participate in local elections and then I ended up having to vote for Hillary! I'm going to protest by letting a clown take office.
And then when it turns out the clown is a fascist dictator I'm going to keep arguing about why my favorite candidate isn't being served up to me in a silver platter!
Yes the system sucks and the Democrat candidates suck, but you can't fix the system by abstaining your vote at the last second.
THE CORRUPT SYSTEM DEPENDS ON YOUR THIS EXACT BEHAVIOR.
And I know you probably did participate but it wasn't enough. You need to convince others, you need to protest and raise awareness when it matters.
Letting a clown dictator run the country doesn't further your cause.
I never said that abstaining from voting is the right move here, quite the opposite, I'm completely for harm reduction and would vote for the democrat option everytime. Don't know how you got that from my post. It's just so weird for me that none of the blame is placed on the democratic party and it's establishment canidates doing jack-shit and when they lost in 2016 because of sheer incompetency, it's somehow the fault of "leftists abstaining to vote" (any sources on that claim? Anyone got any stats on that?)
Also, drop the sarcastic tone when you lack reading comprehention this much. Nowhere in my post was abstaining to vote even implied to be the best course of action (it's not), I was just asking why noone seems to blame the DNC for it's incompetency.
Fuck the DNC their corrupt system pushed Bernie out unfairly. There's no disagreement there. But people abstain from voting because they're upset with the DNC. That's what I have an issue with. That's like getting mad at fire so you let it burn your house down.
Sorry didn't mean to come off so harsh.
No worries, I completely get your frustrations. Not voting in general is the dumbest thing one can do in that situation, especially when one of the options is a fascistic clown. I get that you're very passionate about this, and I hope I haven't come of as (too) harsh in my reply as well.