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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

No, but he would probably say to vote for the candidate that mentions they're open up integration vs the candidate who wants to make slavery a thing again.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago

Except one of those candidates is in the position to take action now, but chooses not to.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Doesn't change the calculation.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

It changes what effective methods of protest you have, though.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Not really. It's a binary choice.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

"Nothing else exists outside this vote right now"

Jesus, read a history book or something

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

That's the entirety of what we're discussing. Biden or Trump. Binary choice. You're getting one of em.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

Sure, but what each of those candidates does is flexible, and one of those candidates can fulfill some action in that role right now.

And since that candidate needs our votes, we have some degree of bargaining power over what that candidate chooses to do right now and for the next 7 months.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Do you?

If Biden doesn't stop helping Israel, you'll help the other guy get elected? What kind of bargain is that?

You're playing with fire by threatening that. It's a terrible, terrible gamble. If you lose, countless more people will die. Are you okay having that on your conscience?

This is the world's biggest trolley problem, and you're advocating for "don't pull the lever even though more people will die"

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

If Biden doesn't stop funding Israel in the next 7 months, i'll make that choice.

But making that choice now when I don't have to isn't just dumb, it's complicity.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

You're making that choice right now. If you stand on a hill with a megaphone shouting "GENOCIDE JOE GENOCIDE JOE!" for 8 months and then at the 11th hour decide to go "eh okay I'll vote for him", it's too late.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

Are you aware of how protests work?

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Are you aware of what splitting the vote is?

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lol I thought I was choosing something today? Are we voting today? Did I miss it?

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago
[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

Who's being dense?

I'm not the one conflating protesting today with not voting for Biden I'm 7 months

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I’m 7 months

I knew you were a preemie

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

Hard to type with these tiny underdeveloped hands

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

if you're worried about splitting the vote, and you know people won't vote for joe because of his genocide, it's incumbent upon you to either get him to stop the genocide or support some other candidate.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

"If you're worried about splitting the vote, it's your job to split the vote"

Nice try commie

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

you know I'm not gonna vote with you, but the vote wouldn't be split if you'd vote with me

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