Right? You're trying to convince someone that we're destroying the environment tremendously, year by year, yet somehow, what gets in the way for them to simply observe the observable is... religion? All we need is a thermometer and a pencil to witness climate change.

The other thing that really bothers me is how people act as if the current rate of things is natural. I've heard people make arguments that the Earth has always gone through changes through the centuries, even on television. Yet they don't consider for a moment how rapid or impactful these changes are.