112
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 05 Apr 2024
112 points (98.3% liked)
Australian Politics
1293 readers
55 users here now
A place to discuss Australia Politics.
Rules
This community is run under the rules of aussie.zone.
Recommended and Related Communities
Be sure to check out and subscribe to our related communities on aussie.zone:
- Australia (general)
- Australian News
- World News (from an Australian Perspective)
- Aussie Environment
- Ask an Australian
- AusFinance
- Pictures
- AusLegal
- Aussie Frugal Living
- Cars (Australia)
- Coffee
- Chat
- Aussie Zone Meta
- bapcsalesaustralia
- Food Australia
Plus other communities for sport and major cities.
https://aussie.zone/communities
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Or we could cut out the middle man and just vote or not vote ourselves on issues as we see fit?
That's how you get an America-like situation where the goal isn't to come up with policies the most people agree with, but to find ways to get the people who already agree with you to turn out to vote, and to dissuade people who disagree with you from voting.
It's a brilliant way to empower NIMBYs even more than they already are.
Okay so make it mandatory with a “no opinion” option for those who are not concerned on issues.
We don’t actually need to have an individual opinion on every topic, nor would everyone care about everything. Let’s empower people to make their own choices for once.
There are an average of two divisions every single day Parliament sits. And that's without counting votes that are determined on the voices. Or issues at the state and local council levels. Federally, there are about 200 Bills introduced every single year. There's not necessarily anything wrong with enabling people to vote on all of them if they want to, but making it mandatory is a ludicrous proposition. Enabling people to choose a proxy is not just a good idea, it's a necessity to do large-scale direct democracy.
Cool, so don’t make it mandatory. I don’t really care.
What I care about is that people have a direct say in what they want to vote for. Not have to hope a representative actually represents them.
That's how Thor's idea works. You choose your proxy. You don't elect them without the option to change until the next election. You can switch proxies or take over directly at literally any time.
I don’t want to choose a proxy, I want a direct say. The only person I want representing me, is me.
Anything less is simply lipstick on a pig.
??????
You don't have to, that's the entire point of the proxy; it's for people who can't/don't want to vote on every single issue. Clearly you're not one of these people so there's no actual issue here, you're just arguing for argument's sake.
That is actually what was proposed by the candidate @Zagorath@aussie.zone was referring to.
No different to the potential for the same problem today in representative elections.
Ok then? Do that. But why should your preference to do it that way dictate how everyone must do it?
Ok.
Fuck off mate, trying to lurk me for 10 minutes because you got called out in a comment on a completely different topic on a different instance.
Ok.
It’s obvious I’m not going to invest any real time engaging with your sort. So fuck off and stop harassing me across Lemmy.
Ok.
Right you just happened to come into a niche auspol community, find my post about voting, and reply to only me with a butthurt comment about being called out elsewhere on Lemmy.
How fucking much of a nong do you have it be to think anyone is buying that.
Im done replying to you now. Go enjoy whatever other pathetic things it is you do online.
Edit: and you edit all your comments to hide what you’ve said. Fucking loser.
KO