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[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I have no doubt gaggles of these goons will start some shit here and there, but a Civil War would mean the US military has either fractured or someone raised a domestic army capable of fighting the US military, which is so crazy I don't even know why I mentioned it.

You have to remember the 'state-of-the-art' of war in 1861 was that men, munitions, and information moved at the maximum speed of a train, but more likely horse. And the distance between the most technologically advanced weapons available and a farmer's rifle was within an order of magnitude of technological progress. Today the distance between civilian and military communications, field intelligence, and weaponry might as well be to another star system. And before anyone references past insurgent success against modern US military- they didn't get their weapons at WalMart- they're supplied by other national militaries. A Civil War starting with a civilian uprisings just isn't a military possibility.

And I really don't see any scenario by which the US military starts fighting itself. I'd be curious what scenarios others think might lead to that but I just don't see anything on the table that could make a US military commander accept an order to attack other US military assets. I think something like a military coup would be far more likely than a civil war at this point.

[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago

Exactly. Anyone who starts a Civil War in the US, unless it's the US military itself, is going to lose. This rhetoric just puts targets on the backs of these Nazis, and that's a good thing. None of the absolute shit they spew will fair well for them and society has been and will continue to (rightly) ostracize them.

I look forward to the day the Guinness book of world record for the largest human dung pile is awarded to the massive mile high pile of shit that will undoubtedly accumulate over Donald Trump's grave and his entire family is nothing but a distant memory of a pathetic attempt at an American oligarchy.

Fuck Trump, fuck his family, fuck his supporters, fuck anyone who ever benefited even one iota from his policies. I'd personally forego the Pearly Gates of Heaven and choose Hell if it meant I got to watch him burn for eternity. That is preferable, that is Heaven to me.

[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

Agreed but Telegraph was definitely a thing during the civil war, so information could move at lightning speed.

[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

True- I've usually made the point about technological distance between civilian and military when people bring up 'Revolution' so I had to kind of adapt it for the US Civil war to include trains and forgot about telegraphs.

Kind of crazy to think the Revolution and Civil War were about as far apart as the Civil War and WWII, but then think about the difference between the advancements in military technology between each.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago

A modern civil war will not be fought on battle fields. That shit was pointless and stupid in the first civil war (which is a large reason why the South lost, they wanted glorious battles, and the north just burned cities)

No, a modern civil war will look like the mess in Syria or Haiti. It will be disorganized, chaotic, and there will be far too much pointless bloodshed, with no battle lines. Just a bunch of assholes killing people who they disagree with.

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