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[-] Alto@kbin.social 56 points 7 months ago

Too bad brave's CEO is a giant bigoted piece of shit who I refuse to support.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Damnit. Okay, what's the next best Chromium based browser? I love Firefox but I have to keep a Chromium browser on hand for the few sites FF just doesn't handle properly.

[-] weegee90@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Vivaldi was my main browser for a while, and my backup chromium browser since I switched back to Firefox. Most of the privacy stuff in Brave is available as separate extensions and I really like Vivaldi's sidebar and profile management.

[-] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 7 months ago

I just use ungoogled chromium in those cases

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

What about Tor

[-] virtueisdead@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago

ungoogled chromium obviously

[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

What sites don't FF handle? Small or big?

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Google Docs, ComfyUI (on mobile), couple porn sites.

[-] GustavoFring@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

TradingView

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

If it works for you, and it's only a secondary/failsafe browser, shouldn't feel too guilty to use it.

I don't use brave and I'm not aware of what's the issue with the CEO, not sure if knowing that would change my protective

[-] Alto@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The founder/CEO actively donates to anti-LGBT organizations, including ones that support conversion therapy. The guy is an awful piece of shit, and any decent person should take whatever steps necessary to not support them.

Thankfully, that's as simple as not using Brave.

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I like thorium

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago

You know he isn't retrieving the results personally?

Pieces of shit exist in most companies.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago

No way, really?!?!

I try to not reward companies that hire CEOs who actively support the extermination of gay people

[+] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Brendan Eich was a founder. He wasn't hired. Not sure if anyone can remove him.

How would you feel if a conservative organization mounted a campaign to boycott an entire company because the CEO is gay?

The Brave browser is not itself exterminating gay people, nor stopping them marrying.

Do you drink Fanta? Should we also still boycott Volkswagen and Hugo Boss?

If you apply your boycotting consistently you need to avoid an awful lot of things

(Note, I'm not defending Brendan Eich or his appalling views)

[-] Alto@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Get the actual fuck out of here with your both sides bullshit. Boycotting a company for being bigoted is not the same as boycotting a company because you yourself are a bigoted piece of shit.

E: sp

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago

No-one is claiming whatever it is you are trying to say.

I'm saying neither the company nor product have done anything bigoted.

Boycotting any and every company that employs bigots is impossible.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If you can't see why one would boycott a company with a loud and proudly bigoted founder, i don't know what the fuck to tell you other than you need to take a long, hard look in the mirror.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago

I can't see why we should boycott when the product isn't bigoted and the company doesn't do bigoted things.

Highlighting a particular employee or position is not logical.

If the CFO was bigoted would you boycott?

If the country manager was bigoted would you boycott?

...

If the intern was bigoted would you boycott?

Under your moral code ANY company employing at least one bigot should be boycotted. This leads to almost all companies being boycotted.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't put words in my mouth.

I'd also prefer companies have strict policies against that sort of thing, and if I found out a company was fostering a workplace where that awful view is acceptable, I would boycott them as well.

The founder generally receives the biggest piece of the pie. That's obviously a more significant thing. Frankly, I think you know this and are simply arguing in bad faith.

And get out of here with your purity test bullshit. Yeah, I personally go to some pretty extreme lengths to boycott companies. But that's nowhere near as important as the general spirit of being against bigotry and opposing it, violently if necessary, anywhere you see it.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

I'd also prefer companies have strict policies against that sort of thing,

It seems they do https://brave.com/careers/

The founder generally receives the biggest piece of the pie.

So poor bigots are fine. Got it.

Brave is FOSS. Nothing needs to go to Eich.

the general spirit of being against bigotry and opposing it,

Agreed. But neither the Brave company nor the software is bigoted.

violently if necessary, anywhere you see it.

I would not advocate for attacking free speech (political donations) with violence.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

Im sorry that you're so tolerant of bigotry. I can't help you

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

I'm clearly against bigotry.

I don't see how that position is related to using a particular web browser.

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