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Fourth of July overshadowed by 16 mass shootings across US (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, over 500 people have been killed by police in 2023 so far, and yet we never hear the president comment on that. Maybe we should be disarming the police?

[-] christophski@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago

Maybe disarm everyone?

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Why? Lots of people have guns, and almost all of them are never a problem to anyone. Perhaps we should look into why violence happens and address those root causes and of course disarm the police because their only purpose is violence.

[-] zefiax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I would agree if gun regulation wasn't proven to work 8n every other country on the planet. With that mountain of evidence, maybe it's time to stop with the what aboutism and pretending it isn't part of the problem.

[+] Redrum714@lemm.ee -9 points 1 year ago

Everyone having guns is the sole reason there’s so many police shootings. Nothing is going to change until the general population is unarmed.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

What an insane take. Plenty of police shootings are on unarmed individuals. Moreover, having an unarmed populace wouldn't prevent police shootings when the core cause of police brutality isn't addressed. They demand control and obedience; you being unarmed doesn't make them any less likely to shoot you if you're not being obedient.

[-] Redrum714@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That’s not a “take” that’s reality lol

US cops have to always assume that someone can be armed given the insane amount of guns and ease of access. That is directly correlated with the wide spread use of lethal force.

Cops in countries with sane gun laws, for example the UK, can safely assume the average citizen does not have a gun on them.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

It's used as an excuse. If people weren't armed, they'd find another excuse. That's what I mean by not addressing the underlying problem of police brutality and abuse of power. Also, they'll always say they thought someone had a gun even when they know almost for certain the person didn't, because they know you'll buy it.

[-] Redrum714@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

What other excuse? Guns are literally the main issue…

You can have the best police training programs in the world, but if the population is heavily armed and unregulated you’re still going to have ton of police shootings.

Of course they always say “thought we saw a gun”. Guns are so numerous they have to assume the worst else the chances of getting shot goes way up.