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TOKYO, Japan – Japan’s military is testing Elon Musk’s Starlink satellite internet service with an eye to adopting the technology next fiscal year, the Yomiuri newspaper reported on Sunday, June 25, citing unnamed government sources.

The Ministry of Defense already has access to communication satellites in geostationary orbit, but use of Starlink technology, operated by Musk’s SpaceX, would add a constellation of satellites in low Earth orbit, the Yomiuri said.

Countries around the world are seeking to build resilience against the risk of jamming of communications or attacks on satellites in the event of conflict.

Japan’s Self-Defense Forces have been testing Starlink since March with the system deployed in about 10 locations and in training, the newspaper said.

Defense ministry spokespeople could not immediately be reached for comment on the report outside business hours.

Starlink technology is being deployed by Ukraine on the battlefield, and Russia is attempting to block its use in the region. Musk said in October SpaceX could not afford to indefinitely fund Starlink’s use in Ukraine.

The US Defense Department said this month it had contracted to provide Starlink services there. – Rappler.com

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[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Only one of many reasons why Starlink is a very concerning project.

[-] authed@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why? That means that the US can shut off Japan's army access to starlink at anytime.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

That's actually not what I meant but is a consideration. What I meant is that it is very problematic that the US DoD has control of a communications system which is being marketed both to individual people in various parts of the world, as well as comprador governments. It's also very concerning that so many of these satellites are being launched and clogging up low earth orbit. Not to mention the intelligence concerns of states whose interests are not aligned with those of the US military and intelligence apparatus. There are also pollution concerns on earth what with a stack of these being launched every week or so and the fact that even when SpaceX are ostensibly done with the buildout they'll have to keep replacing older satellites. Overall it's a project which needs to be met with much more criticism, which it is outside of the cheerleading western media.

[-] mr_washee_washee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

That’s actually not what I meant but is a consideration. What I meant is that it is very problematic that the US DoD has control of a communications system which is being marketed both to individual people in various parts of the world, as well as comprador governments

isnt that the same that hapoened with gps. then other countries came up and made galileo and glonass ?

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

In part, yes. Now imagine a swarm of something like 12,000 - 40,000 communications and sigint satellites per regional political bloc, or even multiple per bloc to subsidize multiple private companies. It's just completely absurd on every level.

In the case of GPS we're talking about 24 per network, and they're far out of the way of other low earth orbit activity.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Precisely, is that not very concerning?

[-] authed@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

It's concerning to Japan, but according to the article they have other satellites that they can rely on, also. Starlink it's just another way to communicate for them.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's not reassuring in the least. Even if it's a backup or secondary system, if Starlink and the USA can cut service at will, it's disadvantageous for Japan's military to use it. This isn't just reliance on foreign technology in the form of chips or other hardware, this is reliance on a foreign for-profit company owned by a megalomaniac billionaire who has made threats to cut service before in an active warzone when it suited him. This system subordinates Japanese (military) autonomy to external entities that not only aren't obligated to act in Japan's best interest, but have no way of being held responsible when they act against Japan's interests.

[-] authed@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hopefully Japan's military know what they are doing... And use that as a backup......

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm just going to repeat myself: it is literally not any better if it's a backup versus the primary system. Read my comment.

Edit to add: When do you use a backup? When things have gone very wrong. That is precisely when reliance on this system is the most dangerous.

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