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The aircraft flew up to speeds of 1,200mph. DARPA did not reveal which aircraft won the dogfight.

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[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You mean it should be a war crime, right? Or is there some treaty I am unaware of?

Also, why? I don't necessarily disagree, I am just curious about your reasoning.

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 months ago

Not OP, but if you can't convince a person to kill another person then you shouldn't be able to kill them anyways.

There are points in historical conflicts, from revolutions to wars, when the very people you picked to fight for your side think "are we the baddies" and just stop fighting. This generally leads to less deaths and sometimes a more democratic outcome.

If you can just get a drone to keep killing when any reasonable person would surrender you're empowering authoritarianism and tyranny.

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

see star trek TNG episode The Arsenal of Freedom for a more explicit visualisation of this ☝️ guy's point.

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Take WWI Christmas when everyone got out of the trenches and played some football (no not American foot touches the ball 3x a game)

It almost ended the war

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 4 points 6 months ago

Yes the humanity factor is vital

Imagine the horrid destructive cold force of automated genocide, it can not be met by anything other than the same or worse and at that point we are truly doomed

Because there will then be no one that can prevent it anymore

It must be met with worse opposition than biological warfare did after wwI, hopefully before tragedy

[-] i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Mines are designated war crimes by the ~~Geneva convention~~ Ottawa treaty because of the indiscriminate killing. Many years ago, good human right lawyers could have extended that to drones... (Source: i had close friends in international law)

But i feel like now the tides have changed and tech companies have influenced the general population to think that ai is good enough to prevent "indiscriminate" killing.

Edit: fixed the treaty name, thanks!

[-] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Mines are designated war crimes by the Geneva convention

Use of mines is not designated a war crime by the Geneva Convention.

Some countries are members of a treaty that prohibits the use of some types of mines, but that is not the Geneva Convention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Mines are not part of what people refer to as the Geneva conventions. There is a separate treaty specifically banning some landmines, that was signed by a lot of countries but not really any that mattered.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 6 months ago

Yes

Because it is a slippery slope and dangerous to our future existence as a species

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago
[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 6 months ago

First it is enemy tanks. Then enemy air. Then enemy boats and vehicles, then foot soldiers and when these weapons are used the same happens to their enemy. Then at last one day all humans are killed

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