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I don't care if it's childish or not, it's true, and your consistency and integrity matter whether you like it or not. "He hit me first" is the most important factor in these calculations because circumstances are what makes us human, and callously dismissing them in the name of a perverse way of thinking that only leads to disaster to victims and enables abusers like Russia is, to put it mildly, what some dumbass Karen would do when she's tired of dealing with her kid fighting at school every day and doesn't actually give a shit about her own kid's well-being.
You sound like some tired and angry soccer mom who never wanted to have kids in the first place and is only thinking about their cats and wine.
Ok, then let me ask you a bit more philosophical question. Is it okay to execute a murderer? Do you truly belive in the concept of " an eye for an eye"? Similarly do you think being wronged justifies you abandoning your morality?
Is that murderer actively trying to kill you when you defend yourself and they wind up dead? Then yes, absolutely.
Or are they handcuffed and sitting in jail no longer a threat to anyone? Now you can start asking if it's justified.
I don't think this is about an eye for an eye and I think you are erroneously framing it as such.
Dude, it’s war.
It’s not philosophical. It’s survival.
Who the fuck are you to dictate to me what my morality is?
Do you not get that other people think differently than you and that we don't view moraity as purity? That we understand that morality is entirely different from and means more than what you think it does?
Here, let me fix that for you:
Because that is what morality is for you: nothing but pride, whereas people like me care about reducing suffering in the world and a better outcome for everyone.
Calm down, I'm a random no one on the internet. It's nessasary to play the devil's advocate in order to spark conversation
Thanks for telling us you're just meaninglessly concern trolling and for proving debate is fucking pointless
We're talking about self defense. Executing someone who is no longer a threat is not analogous. Do you have any arguments that aren't false analogies?