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Greg Rutkowski, a digital artist known for his surreal style, opposes AI art but his name and style have been frequently used by AI art generators without his consent. In response, Stable Diffusion removed his work from their dataset in version 2.0. However, the community has now created a tool to emulate Rutkowski's style against his wishes using a LoRA model. While some argue this is unethical, others justify it since Rutkowski's art has already been widely used in Stable Diffusion 1.5. The debate highlights the blurry line between innovation and infringement in the emerging field of AI art.

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[-] CapedStanker@beehaw.org 44 points 1 year ago

Here's my argument: tough titties. Everything Greg Rutkowski has ever drawn or made has been inspired by other things he has seen and the experiences of his life, and this applies to all of us. Indeed, one cannot usually have experiences without the participation of others. Everyone wants to think they are special, and of course we are to someone, but to everyone no one is special. Since all of our work is based upon the work of everyone who came before us, then all of our work belongs to everyone. So tough fucking titties, welcome to the world of computer science, control c and control v is heavily encouraged.

In that Beatles documentary, Paul McCartney said he thought that once you uttered the words into the microphone, it belonged to everyone. Little did he know how right he actually was.

You think there is a line between innovation and infringement? Wrong, They are the same thing.

And for the record, I'm fine with anyone stealing my art. They can even sell it as their own. Attribution is for the vain.

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

Greg wants to get paid, remove the threat of poverty from the loss of control and its a nonissue.

[-] Virulent@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Not every human activity deserves compensation

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Compensation shouldn't be an aspect of most human activity.

[-] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

But every human activity desirable to others deserve compensation. If you want someone to do something for you or make something for you or entertain you then it deserves compensation. The way ads on the internet have trained a lot of people to think that a lot of entertainment et cetera on the internet is free has been a negative for this. But at the same time that ad-supported model does make it more available to people that otherwise couldn't afford the price of admission. It's partly democratizing, but it's also a scourge.

[-] Virulent@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Even if that were true it wouldn't apply to this situation. The man wants monopoly rights to his art style. That's insane.

[-] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Has he said that no other humans could be inspired by his art style? If no then he hasn't expressed a want for monopoly rights to his art style. But he has expressed that he doesn't want computers to generate art explicitly to mimic his art style.

Also don't make claims that are totally disconnected from the argument discussed. It's dishonest discourse and serves as a way to brush aside the other argument. You didn't make any counterargument to my argument and the point of this chain which came from you saying that "Not every human activity deserves compensation" as a reply to someone saying "Greg wants to get paid, remove the threat of poverty from the loss of control and its [sic] a nonissue."

Your reply to me was inane.

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