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an open letter to the NixOS foundation (save-nix-together.org)
submitted 8 months ago by self@awful.systems to c/freeasm@awful.systems
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this thread fucking sucks for me to have to post, but the linked open letter is an important read. none of the systemic issues pertaining to marginalized folks and commercial/military-industrial interests in the Nix community I’ve previously written about on TechTakes have been solved; in fact, they’ve gotten worse to the point where the Nix community moderation team is essentially in the process of quitting. that’s the beginning to an awful end for a project I like a whole lot.

even if you don’t give a fuck about Nix, the open letter is an important read because the toxicity, conflicts of interest, and underhanded tactics detailed in it are incredibly common in the open source space. this letter could have been written about a multitude of infamously toxic open source projects; Nix is lucky that it has marginalized folks involved who care about the direction of the project and want to make things better, but those people are actively leaving, after being burnt out by the toxic people and structures entrenched in Nix’s community. that’s a fucking tragedy.

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[-] self@awful.systems 11 points 8 months ago

a fork has appeared, courtesy of Jake Hamilton. the site seems a bit unstable for right now, but it looks like it’s starting on the right foot otherwise.

[-] self@awful.systems 7 points 8 months ago

an orange site thread about the fork that as of now is mostly jon ringer refusing to log off

[-] self@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago

There's a vast difference between "working to solve it" and "forking it"!

The younger generations do not get the concept of "respect"! They need to respect those who've done the most work and not feel entitled that a small contribution to something makes them equal rights owners!

holy shit this is it, this is what forking hostility gets you. just straight up racist uncle at thanksgiving level takes

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 7 months ago

Who wants to take bets on this person having edited the sentence “spare the rod, spoil the child” out of their post purely on the grounds of ~~decency~~ thinking “it won’t sit well on Hacker news”?

[-] self@awful.systems 9 points 8 months ago

“the people complaining about nix just want drama”, I said, while exploding into such a large cloud of crybaby piss that I’m posting on every tech news site and Reddit simultaneously about how the wokes temporarily banned me for being an absolute shithead

[-] sinedpick@awful.systems 9 points 8 months ago

he really can't STFU, can he? After reading his earlier posts I wouldn't even have blinked, he just seemed like the garden variety "marginalized people don't exist" type. Now he's taken the mask off and gone full narcissist assclown. what an idiot.

[-] self@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago

all of the bad actors in the Nix community have a remarkable gift for SBF levels of self-defeating explanation. funny things happen when folks who’ve self-appointed to positions of power (especially positions that shouldn’t have power, like with Jon, or shouldn’t exist at all, like with Eelco) suddenly face accountability from folks who’re absolutely onto their bullshit and done fucking around

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago
  • Use of social media to target individuals [3]

Ah yes, the good old projection, never fails to be completely transparent.

[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 3 points 7 months ago

I'm calling it now - NixOS is gonna be dead by 2025.

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