20

"...there came a point, a few weeks ago, when I realized, the government isn’t going to end the war, isn’t bringing the hostages back, and isn’t helping the evacuees.”

" Increasingly, Netanyahu’s many opponents are questioning his handling of the war. Others are questioning the prime minister’s motives, suggesting his political interest lies in the continuation of the fighting, which inevitably delays his political demise. Netanyahu is currently under trial on various charges of corruption."

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago

Half the problem from a western civilian perspective is we just dont know the truth. We know Hamas massacres civilians, sets up torture rooms in hospitals, pretend to be noncombatants, and has a quality propaganda network. We know the IDF has at a very minimum killed civilians, and invaded homes, and maybe a lot more, but how much is propaganda and how much is truth?

We just dont know, and frankly Im frustrated that we dont know.

[-] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 4 months ago

@Blamemeta @Bongo_Stryker I'm pro #Israel, and support their side of the conflict, but there are some small (but significant) cases in which the #IDF very likely violated international law/the #GenevaConventions; using #WhitePhosphorus, and the siege on #Gaza, as well as potentially the targeting of the #WCK truck. Targeting #Rafah probably looks like a genocidal tactic, but to be fair #Hamas militants are likely there.

[-] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

@Blamemeta @Bongo_Stryker Thing is, violating international law and the rules of war are not the same as committing a genocide. Genocide is a very specific claim that #Israel does not meet the standard for. It's interesting to note as well that despite the (albeit minority) amount of American more mad at #Israel than #Hamas, #Hamas has done far, far worse in the #Israel #Hamas war than the #IDF has.

Has the #IDF raped civilians? I think not.

[-] amerika@annihilation.social 1 points 4 months ago

@realcaseyrollins @Blamemeta @Bongo_Stryker

Good summary. The worst we have IDF on is hitting the wrong targets while the Palestinians used them as human shields.

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Has the IDF raped civilians? Shit questions. Most likely yes, some soldiers have but the IDF as a whole does not.

American soldiers have raped women. That doesn't mean the US supports it. We punish those who do.

@wintermute_oregon No no no not #IDF soldiers; the #IDF, as a military group, as part of a militant campaign. People tend to do whatever when they're off duty, that doesn't exactly count.

load more comments (24 replies)
load more comments (61 replies)
this post was submitted on 03 May 2024
20 points (79.4% liked)

Conservative

357 readers
78 users here now

A place to discuss pro-conservative stuff

  1. Be excellent to each other. Civility, No Racism, No Bigotry, No Slurs, No calls to violences, No namecalling, All that good stuff, follow lemm.ee's rules, follow the rules of your instance, etc.

  2. We are a Pro-Conservative forum. Posts must have a clear pro-conservative, or anti left-wing bias. We are interested in promoting conservatism and discussing things that might get ignored elsewhere. All sources are acceptable, however reputable sources with a reputation for factual reporting are preferred.

  3. Dissent is allowed in the comments, but try to be constructive; if you do not agree, then provide a reason which is backed up by references or a reasonable alternative interpretation of the provided facts. That means the left wing is welcome to state their opinions, but please keep it in good faith.

A polite request, not a rule, if you feel the need to report a comment, please don't reply to it.

founded 11 months ago
MODERATORS